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Fastmail as well. I just paid for 3 years which amounts to 3.11 USD or so, per month.


May I ask what Thunderbird local storage means? Does that mean that emails are delivered and stored on the device, vs on a cloud server?


It sounds like they want k9 to be a client for thunderbird, so when you read email in k9, thunderbird marks it as read; when you fetch email, it goes through thunderbird. Thunderbird would be a caching proxy as well as an email client.

If you keep your desktop on 24/7 as many people do, then you might keep your email client (thunderbird) open in the background, checking for mail every 5 minutes so you know when you get new email. Since your storage quota is only 250mb, you delete email from the server automatically on download. Now suppose you want to take an email with you to a community meeting. You can print it out, or you can email it to yourself at a different address. Or if you were able to link up your phone with your computer's storage, you can just search up the email on demand, find related messages, and make changes to drafts for your community mailing list.

If you could connect to thunderbird with an IMAP client, then this would be possible.


I don't use IMAP because I don't want to leave my email on my email provider servers. I download messages over POP3, filter to folders (one per person or customer) and backup as any other file. I use K9 to read those messages over POP3 before I download them with Thunderbird. I delete notifications and anything that doesn't have to be stored forever. The obvious downside is that I can't access old mail when I'm away from my laptop (example: now.) Surprisingly this never turned out to be a problem for the last 30 years. Of course I didn't use K9 unless I had an Android phone in 2011.

However I see two ways to let my phone read old mail

1. Set up my own IMAP server at home and deliver email to it, then program some filter system to mimic what I'm doing in Thunderbird.

2. Access Thunderbird directory on my laptop over IMAP. That IMAP server would be on my laptop or (better) on some always on server at home that uses the same file format as Thunderbird. I would rsync it with my laptop.

I admit that number 2 is weird. Number 1 is the proper way but I have so little incentive to do it that I'll probably stick with my current setup forever.


Another option, hypothetical, is you export your emails to a common format like markdown (with embedded meta directly in each file; 1 per email or in a pair where the secondary file is the same name but stores meta only ie- in json) and then open them in any note-taking app or wiki or static site generator that works on markdown files (with some extent of configuration presumably, extra points if the app makes it sensible to easily organize your emails for optimal viewing). You could serve the files over HTTP, probably less hassle than running a secondary IMAP server, or alternatively you could sync them to your device(s) over ssh via git or zfs or an app like Syncthing.


Thunderbird to HTTP looks simple enough to be a side project sometimes in the future. It could integrate with a backup server I'm planning to setup. Thanks.


Yeah, to me, it sounds like a confusion in understanding what IMAP and POP email accounts are and how they work.


What address did the email come from, and what do the headers show? Anything to indicate it's a spoofed email?


Very much this. I see users getting locked out of Google account often, or Google changing their policies (like the recent change of free G Suite accounts to premium ones) which would mean you'd be locked out of most accounts.


I am not aware of any truncation, but best to ask their support and/or ask on their community forums.


Any standard email host with IMAP access and a custom domain will do. I like Migadu.



I tried out Migadu but I found their calendar service lacking for me. Specially I wanted to be able to generate private calendar links to be imported by others. Unfortunately I also need to tie my calendar and email provider together for server-side scheduling on mobile.

The other oddity is that the expect you to set up the DNS records before they active inbound mail on the account. This means that in order to get set up you will need a period where mail is rejected. However by reaching out to support I could get them to active the account first, then I could add the records for a zero-downtime migration.

Other than that the service looked really good.


Both of them. The domain and the ability to remove trackers are why I signed up when it initially launched.


This service is not ideal for spammers because it is not possible to initiate sending of emails using Duck at the moment. It's only for receiving and responding to incoming emails.


I think the parent company misunderstood the process as being required to move to a new Google account. That's not the case as far as I can tell from the support document. The account remains the same, just have to pay for the service.


"How does the upgrade affect my current G Suite legacy free edition subscription?

Your current G Suite legacy free subscriptions and related services will continue to function as they do today, until you self-upgrade or we upgrade you automatically to one of the new editions."

That "until" is really ambiguous - does that mean services terminate when you self-upgrade?


No, it means that you upgrade to a paid Google Workspace account. If you don't want to pay for it you can cancel it: https://support.google.com/a/answer/1257646

If you cancel it, your account is converted to an ordinary external domain Google account AFAICT. You need to migrate your email out of Google/Gmail to get service messages over email, but you can continue using your Google account as an ordinary Gmail-like account - only difference being that you handle your email yourself (because you didn't want to pay Google to do it for you.)


I like Bitwarden too, but can't dismiss the fact that 1Password is superior to Bitwarden in many ways:

- Mobile UI is beautiful on 1Password.

- The UX from creating a password entry to auto-filling is easily better on 1Password. Bitwarden doesn't show autofill entries on login forms yet. That's a deal breaker, at least for me.

- Account recovery via a trusted family member.

- Additional security measure: private key in addition to master password.

Personally, the 35 USD fee is justified.


Bitwarden has all those features you listed. I use it every day.

You can setup a trusted family member. You get a master password and private key incase you can't access 2fa. You can setup autofill entries. UI/UX are opinions.

You pay $40 dollars a year for Family, $10 a year for an individual. Cheaper than 1password.


Hopping aboard to add that Bitwarden does in fact have all of those features. It's disingenuous of parent comment to imply/claim otherwise.

Sure the UI/UX is a bit basic... but honestly most of us should prefer that.


I meant the overlay popup interface by autofill on login forms:

https://community.bitwarden.com/t/overlay-popup-interface/14

Noted about trusted family members on Bitwarden.

I don't understand the private key part for Bitwarden. I am referring to the one here:

https://support.1password.com/secret-key-security/

Is there an equivalent for Bitwarden?


> Bitwarden doesn't show autofill entries on login forms yet. That's a deal breaker, at least for me.

I was able to enable that in the settings, but I've found it very hit or miss compared to when I used LastPass.


I meant the overlay popup interface which is still in the works:

https://community.bitwarden.com/t/overlay-popup-interface/14


You think they'll keep that price for forever?


I bought Lastpass when it was $12/year. Over the years and after being acquired, they tripled the price. I miss when technology used to decrease in price and provide better functionality.


Hopefully so, but I'd be willing to pay even upto 100 USD. I store a lot of things on 1Password these days that it's very hard to give up, and very convenient. It's not just passwords; medical documents, credit card details, passport, certificates, private notes.


They certainly won't. They used every trick in the book to get those of us who bought their standalone, one-time fee software to subscribe.


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