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If you are talking about Khalil, he didn't just speak against Israel, it seems like his role in an org which openly supported Hamas may have played a part but didn't matter legally. The legal issue was that he left out facts on his green card application.

I am 100% sure that support of terrorist orgs can invalidate your green card.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-claims-palest...

> According to recent court filings, President Donald Trump's administration said Khalil failed to disclose when applying for his green card last year that his employment by the Syria Office at the British Embassy in Beirut went "beyond 2022" and that he was a "political affairs officer" for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees from June to November 2023.

> "Regardless of his allegations concerning political speech, Khalil withheld membership in certain organizations and failed to disclose continuing employment by the Syria Office in the British Embassy in Beirut when he submitted his adjustment of status application. It is black-letter law that misrepresentations in this context are not protected speech," the government said in the filing.

Most of these things are not black/white. We should wait for all the facts to come out.


>We should wait for all the facts to come out.

Oh? Before they deport him? If the courts didn't intervene, initiated from his side, he would be gone


> We should wait for all the facts to come out.

Like indefinitely? Trump’s administration is ignoring the courts and there is no real oversight. Also whatever facts come out they will be drowned by all the other insane idiocy that the US government is doing so nobody will pay attention anyway..

When they start sending US citizens to El Salvador nobody is going to care about some guy whose green card got revoked.


This is part of the trick that israel is trying to pull. Suppose you support Palestine liberation from Israel's violent occupation and apartheid, as does most of the world. Well, so does Hamas, so therefore you support Hamas' goals and are evil and a terrorist.

To apply this in another context, I agree with Trump on very little, but I do agree that Daylight Savings should be gotten rid of. So am I pro-Trump? No, that's absurd.

Or if you are right wing in the US and believe that the US is the land of the free and home of the brave, well, so does Hilary Clinton. Are you pro-Clinton?

The connection is absurd, but it parrotted daily by US politicians and US media.


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> Do you condemn Hamas

What’s the alternative? Regardless of what Israel did or did not do Hamas could have ended this “war” at any moment they wanted to. None of their actions were in any way remotely in the interest of the people of Gaza. Providing them [Hamas] material or other support only prolonged it..


This is proven false by the existence of the West Bank, where is there no Hamas and there's still a war. Who is fighting the war there?

In case you're commenting in good faith and genuinely don't know this, "Do you condemn Hamas?" refers to a pattern in media interviews from the earlier days of the holocaust. The interviewer would simply ignore what the interviewee said and repeat "Do you condemn Hamas?" until the interviewee answered with a boolean, at which point the interview was over. No discussion was allowed. You either support everything Israel is doing (boolean true answer) or you are a terrorist (boolean false answer). No nuance allowed. No debate allowed. No facts allowed.


There is a lot whole lot of violence in the West Bank, no carpet bombing or tens of thousands of casualties, though. That makes it extremely different.


The alternative is obvious: a single democratic state and the end of ethnosupremacy.


That’s not sustainable. Best outcome would be ending up like Lebanon.

Besides Belgium (and that’s nowhere close) there are hardly any successful democracies that were evenly split primarily on ethno-religious grounds and didn’t entirely collapse on the first opportunity.


Lebanon is the way it is because the United States and Israel continuously sabotage its government to align with their interests.


You are denying the agency of the people living there and/or are clueless about the country..

US and Israel started the Lebanese civil war and the enmity between the Christian and Muslim populations?

Well in a way.. at least the Palestinian refugees were a huge shock that shifted the scales. But the balance was very tight and the country would have blown up eventually anyway.

You can’t build a democracy when each half of the population hates the other half and considers that their ideological views and their ways of life are incompatible. Even US is learning that the hard way (again..)..


>Providing them [Hamas] material or other support only prolonged it..

How?


The analogies are all over the place lol.

Is social media pure evil like tobacco OR is it a necessity like a utility?

How can it be both?

EU pretends it is both while getting backdoor access.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2024/6/20/orwellian-eu...


Hard core meditators in Hindu traditions were ascetic beggars and still are.

We just don’t see them writing books or posting on YouTube.


To any neutral non European observer, this is what they may see

1. Europe propped up Russia despite Obama and Trump’s warnings before the war

2. Europe still buys more from Russia than they give Ukraine in financial aid

3. Europe is more friendly towards America’s rival China

4. Europe expects US to spend more protecting Europe than Europe


My assumption: There will be use cases where cost of using this will be smaller than the gain from it. Data from this will make the next version better and cheaper.


The green card queues for employment based green cards for China born applicants tell another story

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/green-car...


Even per capita more Chinese are leaving the country for US than the other way round.


Compare past to present and you’ll see a large drop.


Sure, but this is a statistic Beijing is not even trying to improve: at least during the last 10 years, Beijing sees Westerners as a threat and rarely offers them citizenship or permanent residency.


> You can freely travel, enjoy life in China

You shouldn’t make it so obvious, lol. Thanks for the laughs. Much needed.

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/peng-shuai-china-disappeared-ho...

https://www.lefigaro.fr/fig-data/en-chine-de-mysterieuses-di...


You've been using HN primarily (even exclusively) for nationalistic battle. You've also been breaking the site guidelines in all sorts of other ways. Since we've asked you repeatedly not to do this and you've ignored those requests, I've banned the account.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.


I mean every country has their epstein. western media likes to pick the chinese ones cause they make a good china bad story. Hundreds of chinese like myself travel from and to china each year, I'm surprised it's hard for you to imagine regular chinese people can enjoy life in china.


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I don't even get why I'm downvoted or why you linked this. The number is in the millions obviously so what is the point?


AOC is against taxes and other countries paying their fair share?

She realized prices are going up just now?


An easier solution would be money not being power.


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