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If they'd put a screenshot, that would then have been immediately clear to casual visitors.

My initial assumption was "this is gonna look like a typical OSS product, and not as polished as iOS or Android". A single screenshot would have dispelled that notion.


The article is a wall of text with not a single screenshot.

And I couldn't easily find a link to a page that summarised GrapheneOS with some images so I could see how polished it looked.

This is one of the reasons why OSS fails to gain mainstream appeal (as much as I want it to)


GrapheneOS is based on the latest release of the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) which is Android 16 QPR2. It looks nearly the same as the stock Pixel OS also based on the same AOSP release. The main UI differences are user-facing portions of the many privacy and security features added by GrapheneOS. There are minor differences such as the stock Pixel OS having a few different fonts than AOSP. The main thing to show would be the UI for features such as Contact Scopes, Storage Scopes, per-app exploit protection controls, etc. It looks like the stock Pixel OS without the Google app/service integration not present in AOSP with added privacy and security controls.

There are many useful videos about GrapheneOS here:

https://www.youtube.com/@sideofburritos/videos

Any of the videos older than December 2025 will be prior to Android 16 QPR2 so the overall UI will be outdated. That's part of why we don't focus on screenshots or videos because many would need to get updated every 4 months. We'd mainly be using them for our own features which often improve more frequently than that.


> It sometimes feels like a psy-op to read through all these gushingly positive comments, when you know how the average person feels about it.

Yes, exactly!

A common theme among these weird ideological group-thinks is political undertones.

> "Today, criticism on brutalism and modernism is mostly voiced by those on the far-right side of the political spectrum, precisely because of the association between modernism and the post-war welfare state"

https://www.dezeen.com/2021/10/21/brutalist-buildings-right-...

Yup - if you don't like Soviet-style dense urban monoliths, you're "far right" apparently.


I used to work next door to the Barbican and occasionally visit the site on my lunch breaks.

The old decaying concrete, monolithic construction, dark alleys, stagnant algae-filled lakes, dirty windows around a tropical plant space, pretentious art installations - it was all quite interesting to my morbid curiosity. But I always left the Barbican feeling lonely and bleak.

I cannot imagine the misery of living in that environment and having it seep into your soul.

I moved out of London, and live in the countryside now. There is something transcendent about being surrounded by natural beauty, and being far, far away from urban over-development.


Looking at Youtube videos of Barbican apartment visits for 15 minutes will tell you this poster is projecting quite a bit.

Futuristic in a Bladerunner way, not a Star Trek way.

The kind of future where it always rains, it’s always nighttime, and people hide themselves away in fear.


The word you're looking for is dystopia (Star Trek being mostly utopia, at least in the original timeline and as far as Earth/the Federation is concerned).

I’m sure it would rain all the time in Star Trek were it not for the fact that it’s set on a space ship.

The majority opinion (“it’s ugly, monolithic, oppressive, decaying” etc) is such an obvious take that people don’t bother expressing it, especially on forums like HN where people are trying to be insightful as opposed to negative.

So all we get to hear are the opinions of architectural contrarians and certain left wingers who align with the political side of brutalism (i.e. a reactionary movement against Britain’s beautiful Victorian architecture, which is associated with monied elites and colonialism).


The thing about most art, architecture, etc is that it’s incredibly subjective, so contrasting your own views with “certain left wingers” is pretty much pointless.

I personally think the entire south bank is pretty ugly, but my views on this, my political views or my views on other styles of architecture don’t matter one jot.

If there’s a building a bunch of people care very much about, then let them protect it.


Please let’s not call ourselves “swengs”

Is it really that hard to write “developer” or “engineer”?


Amusingly I use that term that to avoid the “not an engineer” and “I don’t make websites” comments. But noted, Tu.

Definitely YIYBY.

I'm glad I read HN.

My take-away is - SpaceX is still an extremely good stock to hold. However, the stupid money will buy the stock at IPO on the promise of space datacentres.

When SpaceX inevitably u-turns on this plan and the stock plummets temporarily, THAT will be a good time to buy in.


> when notified, doing nothing about it

When notified, he immediately:

  * "implemented technological measures to prevent the Grok account from allowing the editing of images of real people in revealing clothing" - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8gz8g2qnlo 

  * locked image generation down to paid accounts only (i.e. those individuals that can be identified via their payment details).
Have the other AI companies followed suit? They were also allowing users to undress real people, but it seems the media is ignoring that and focussing their ire only on Musk's companies...


You and I must have different definitions of the word “immediately”. The article you posted is from January 15th. Here is a story from January 2nd:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98p1r4e6m8o

> Have the other AI companies followed suit? They were also allowing users to undress real people

No they weren’t? There were numerous examples of people feeding the same prompts to different AIs and having their requests refused. Not to mention, X was also publicly distributing that material, something other AI companies were not doing. Which is an entirely different legal liability.


> Which is an entirely different legal liability.

In UK, it is entirely the same. Near zero.

Making/distributing a photo of a non-consenting bikini-wearer is no more illegal when originated by computer in bedroom than done by camera on public beach.


I thought this was about France



The part of X’s reaction to their own publishing I’m most looking forward to seeing in slow-motion in the courts and press was their attempt at agency laundering by having their LLM generate an apology in first-person.

Sorry I broke the law. Oops for reals tho.


Kiddie porn but only for the paying accounts!


Who's going to provide their payment details and then generate kiddie porn?

This is a pretty pragmatic move by Musk.

It's basically a honey trap, the likes of which authorities legitimately use to catch criminals.


Who is going to generate kiddie porn on it in the first place? It's not as if a a lack of a credit card is preventing the authorities from figuring anything out. This is beyond ridiculous.


Nah, Musk put out a public challenge in January asking anyone able to generate illegal / porno images to reply and tell him how they were able to bypass the safegaurds. Thousands of people tried and failed. I think the most people were able to get is stuff you'd see in an R-rated movie, and even then only for fictional requests as the latest versions of Grok refuse to undress or redress any real person into anything inappropriate.

Here's the mentioned thread: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2011527119097249996


The other LLMs probably don't have the training data in the first place.


Er...

"Study uncovers presence of CSAM in popular AI training dataset"

https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/20/csam_laion_dataset/.


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