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I guess they mean safe water as in water you will not get ill from swimming in whereas I think parent is talking about safety as in safe from drowning

"safe" means "safe", which should include:

Will you get ill from the water? (As you mentioned.)

Is it separated from watercraft traffic? (I've been to swimming areas with buoys to mark off where motorboats are not allowed.)

Is there enough safety infrastructure? (For faster rivers, people can get pulled downstream too far. Is there a rope at the end of the bathing area to help people catch themselves? If the river has steep banks or walls, are there ladders for people to get out? Are there life rings and poles so people on shore can help those who get into trouble?) While this could lead to drowning, other possibilities can include hypothermia, or if someone managed to get onto small island but is exhausted and can't get off.

Are there appropriate cautions posted or even closures for things like (this shows my beach background) unusually strong rip tides or jellyfish swarms?

Is the area physically appropriate for swimmers? (I'm old enough to live through the pull-tab era, where people would toss the sharp-edged tabs into the sand, then someone else would step on it and cut their foot, eg, https://pulltabarchaeology.com/archaeology/ . Or read about the "syringe tide" at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syringe_tide .)


Why do you guess that? The sentence includes both "safe" and "healthy"; the latter is redundant on your guess about the former. This is basic reading comprehension really.

A lake can be unsafe for people to swim in yet have a healthy ecosystem and vice versa. Or, if your reading is correct, redundancy might be an aesthetic choice.

> yet have a healthy ecosystem

Interpreting "healthy" as "healthy ecosystem" doesn't really make sense in the context of an initiative focused on people being able to swim.

This thread gives me the vibes of arguing for the sake of arguing. The first point mentions "safe" and "healthy", of course this initiative cares about both good water quality and safety from drowning, because those are quite important things for people wanting to swim.


> This thread gives me the vibes of arguing for the sake of arguing.

You must be new around here


> You must be new around here

The commenter you respond to joined HN 4 years before you, with 10 times more karma points.


I was very obviously only making a joke. But ironically your reply perfectly embodies the petty, joyless and argumentative side of HN commenting I was alluding to.

> I was very obviously only making a joke.

I know; it was a tentative to make the thread more serious than these snarky, unconstructive comments.


> This is basic reading comprehension really.

Really? Do you need to attack the parent and make them seem dumb?


Nushell is plenty fast, works with structured data (also has a vi mode if you care, I do) and works equally well on Windows and Linux. You can install it with winget on windows and with cargo or the system's package manager on linux.

https://www.nushell.sh/


I am a vim user and I wonder what is the use of going five words forward when you can just search for the beginning of the word you want to go to and press enter (even works across lines).

After using vim for a while now I do most of my navigation and editing by searching/replacing


yes, usually it's better to do a search in both vim and emacs, unless you're recording a keyboard macro or using multiple cursors. commonly in the macro or multicursor case, the search string would be different on every line you're trying to make the edit on

I wouldn't say either is better "usually", it really depends on the situation.

If the next five words begin with the same prefix (happens to me), searching will be wasteful. Just spamming "w" is easier.

But when there's something really distinctive (often, punctuation) near the position I'm aiming for, I'll definitely use search.

That's one of the reasons I prefer BRE over ERE/PCRE when editing text interactively - I can search for punctuation in code without having to backslash-escape it.


you have some good points

'bre vs. ere' is terminology i wasn't familiar with, though i've often tripped over the differences: https://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/html_node/BRE-vs-ERE...

iirc mit teco used control characters for its regexp metacharacters to diminish this particular problem


You know it's going to be a good day when there is a new modal editor in town. Thanks for sharing.

About the editor : I love what I see. I must admit that for me now the ultimate vim-fu I settled upon for navigating/editing is searching/replacing ( with something like traces.vim and `set incsearch on` so it feels nicer ) so this new paradigm makes a lot sense I believe.


Advertising probably not but the simple availability of ever sweeter cheap products and with time their integration in people's diet is a strong candidate. Especially since sugar is way less good than say fat at provoking the feeling of satiation (I can think only of evolutionary explanations for that, available sweet food in the wild, think fruits, are not very nutritive, especially ones not selected by humans over time)

I work from my laptop and the smallish screen makes tiling unattractive/overkill. I much prefer a very quick way to change windows which most DEs make surprisingly more difficult than it should be.

I use Cinnamon because it's basic yet customizable enough (you can't remap changing windows in both directions in GNOME). I set up Super + J/K to change windows (and turned off animations for that). If using too much windows, I know Super + 1/2 will always be the navigator/terminal (order in pinned apps in the panel)ot

I use Ctrl + J/K to change terminal tabs so I can always switch between $TERMINAL_EDITOR and the shell/gdb/etc.

I use vim's buffers for the editor and Shift + J/K to move through tabs (I use fuzzy find option when there is many buffers)

I use vimium (Shift + J/K) in Firefox to go through tabs (although the Ctrl + L + % feature is great to move between tabs.)

It's consistent enought that I dont' forget about it and thus use it


If you're going to say what is said under every submission about Signal you should I least mention that it is a choice they made and that they gave reasons why [1], whether you disagree with their arguments.

I am personnally glad that both options exist.

[1] https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/


You can only trust E2EE if whoever controls the server does not also control the client. Otherwise they can just backdoor the client.

I wonder what'd happen if a three letter agency subpoena'd Signal and demanded Signal's app signing key so they can ship a backdoored update to a handful of targets.


I also settled on Lunarvim (ans stopped worrying)

I kinda had the same journey as the author except that I clinged to the terminal workflow he had leave behind. Choosing a Neovim distro was the solution for me.


> I also settled on Lunarvim (ans stopped worrying)

Then I have some sad news for you. :(

https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim/discussions/4518#discus...


That's a bummer. Time to jump ships.

I guess concentration of efforts in this espace is a good idea.


Today I learnt that pure water is not conductive and than tap water is a poor conductor at 120V which I believe is the american standard...

What about Europe's 230V ? Would he still have gone in the water to unplug the piano if he was in Europe ?


I was immediately reminded of the stern warnings to keep out of flooded basements until you've made sure the electricity to the house is cut off. I found[1] at least one person who died this year because of this lesser-known risk of flash-flooding (the more intuitive concern is drowning because you can't open the door due to water pressure). It's possible that it was more voltage at play, though, there are 400V lines in most German homes (electrical heating and stoves, mostly).

[1] https://www.rnd.de/panorama/67-jaehriger-will-keller-leer-pu...


> Would he still have gone in the water to unplug the piano if he was in Europe?

Given that they did feel tingling, honestly I am not convinced one should follow that example anywhere on earth.

The post also describes that the breaker thing trips when the electricity takes an "some other route than expected" (their words), which I'd say tingling is indicative of: some electricity was being conducted away via the water and, at some point, their foot. Yet the breaker no trip, so either it wasn't a protected circuit or they drew another wrong conclusion based on that aquarium observation which they expected to go differently based on a previously wrong conclusion.

If you can assume the water has a similar conductivity as the tap water in the aquarium (not sure that's a safe assumption after it flooded a room with all sorts of dust and objects in it), and you can assume that your body can handle more electricity than the breaker needs to trip, then a fairly short distance ought to indeed insulate you well enough, but the objective was to get close and turn it off. The post sounded like they based this "I'll do it" opinion basically on the hairdryer-in-aquarium thing which we already know didn't go as expected. To me, the situations "hairdryer runs by itself in water" and "I, standing on a ground, stick my hand near the device's off switch in the water" are two very different things. There could easily have been further unknowns -- and apparently there were since the breaker didn't function in the way that this very post describes it should.

Since moving to Germany I've often noticed wariness around "Halbwissen" (loaning the word since it carries extra connotation), meaning half-knowledge but not in the sense of "you know something about it!"; rather, you kinda know but you don't know the details and that causes overconfidence. That works out until it doesn't

I don't honestly subscribe to that a whole lot: you can't know everything about everything and we use partial knowledge all day long for nearly every topic. Also electricity, I've noticed before a lot of mysticism and fear goes around unnecessarily. So I like the part where experimenting, when done carefully (letting it dry, using a protected circuit, being aware that it might fail and you should observe it first), is encouraged. However, this particular bit about going into the water and "I felt the electricity but everyone cheered me on!" is not what and how you're supposed to do these experiments


Luckily we have equations for this!

Assume that the water has a fixed resistance of R. You have increased the Voltage V about double.

As a result of V=IR, the I, or current flow, will be doubled. Which in this case is probably a moderate tingle since R is so high.

For reference, the heart muscles start getting involuntary twitches around 100mA, and at 200mA causes cardiac arrest. And the standard units of Voltage, Amp, and Ohm will serve you well here for any conversions.


You'll get the same tingle at a greater distance. In fact, if the current is finite and current density decreases with distance, it is bounded by the inverse square law.

240v will give you more distance to react between the tingle radius and the kill radius


First time I tasted scotch I thought it tasted smoked mud. I was making faces.

God I love whisky, and french cheese, and red wine, and oysters.


I’ve “enjoyed” multiple bottles of the stuff with a group of friends.

We all agree on the taste, as do everyone who we have convinced to taste it.

If it was an acquired taste I would’ve acquired it already =)


so is everyone who likes it just wrong? or what?


Just weird.

It really does smell like cow dung and tastes like it too. Are my taste buds somehow misaligned?


it doesnt smell or taste like that to me at all


Must be a Coriander/Cilantro -thing, some people smell it differently


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