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In Spain soccer is culturally important - not economically central. Everyone in the world knows teams like Real Madrid or Barcelona. On the other side Spain is home of major telecom and banking multinationals, high-speed rail networks, renewable energy... the startup ecosystem is strong in many cities.

Also european countries are deeply competitive in areas like industrial automation, aerospace, pharmaceuticals, semiconductors, telecommunications infrastructure, renewable energy systems, scientific instrumentation, petrochemicals etc.

Tourism is strong because the immense cultural heritage.


> Everyone in the world knows teams like Real Madrid or Barcelona

I promise you that if you go canvas a random selection of North Americans you would be astonished at how many do not recognize "Barcelona" as anything but a city. Football is really not very popular there. Though in recent years it is slowly becoming a bit more watched.


I can assure you that Mexicans (where football is the main sport and has been for years) would, Hondurans, Panamanians, and many others. If you simply mean the USA and Canada say so. Football is the most watched sport comfortably, with the odd anomaly like the US.

If I'm refuting that everyone in the world knows x, by showing a large population that doesn't know x. Saying that there is some other population that does know x makes no difference.

GP: all trucks are red. Me: no, here's some trucks that are blue. You: but look how many red trucks I see over there.


Seems a bit US-centric calling UA population "large": it is roughly the 4% of the world.

I think a good example of how this plays out is the way Gulf countries are buying European soccer clubs and Museums.

Countries that are economically conscious of a future time where they will be left producing nothing (oil replacement) are seeing the european model as inspiration

Your examples such as telecom and banking are supposed to support and grow out of a real economy, not replace it


Actually I was referring to China, South Asia, Singapore, Hong Kong, India, South Korea. There European football is immensely popular. Or are these country not "economically conscious" either. Are the US economically "conscious" too?

What about Ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, Roman Empire, India, Maya civilizations, Islamic Golden Age societies, Singapore etc? Northern regions have also historically been poor, isolated, and technologically stagnant. Seems pseudoscientific racial/climatic determinism to me.


I cannot say i love or hate it as it is just a tool, but i use github all day long and the reactions here seems exaggerated and dramatic.


I use Github as well and yes it has been down sometimes, but Gitlab has outages too. For me Github is still in good territory and would have to get a lot worse for me to even think about moving off. Gitlab is basically better, but it's not better enough to suffer a migration.


Not available in my country.


Oh god, forgot about that, I do need to add some additional docs for EU availability. Thanks


Not really - it is [t͡ʃ] (“ch”) not [ʃ] (“sh”).


Auf Deutsch, Schokolade. /ʃoko/, per https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Schokolade.


- Let’s hope they don’t change the way macOS manage windows. All the additions they made to accommodate Windows users are useless. - I don’t have any issue on searching macos settings. Could you provide an example? - safari is a great browser, i use it as main browser since years and i’d never go back I think you could keep going saying things that are not true.


The alt tab implementation on macos is awful.


In Europe’s App Store I see my address and phone number in the apps I published there - under the “provider” section.


Interesting. Looks like this is EU specific.


It’s written in the linked page:

“Europe's first industrial-scale mycelium packaging producer”.


We should repeat it over and over until all these electrons apps are replaced by proper native apps. It’s not just performance: they look like patched websites, have inconsistent style and bad usability, and packed with bugs that are already solved since tens of years in our OS. It’s like Active Desktop ™ all over. Working on a native Mac app feels just better.


I rarely feel that any more, especially with the latest liquid glass updates. I used to work on high profile native apps, but embraced Elektron after Figma destroyed Sketch, the supposedly superior native alternative. Electron apps run fine on my 4 years old M2Max 32gb Macbook Pro, I never really experience any problems running Notion, Figma, VScode and Linear side by side. I enjoy being able to resize text in all of these apps like you do on any website, or being able to select text across different UI elements and blocks. Web content has a built in level of accessibility that is really hard for native apps to implement.


> have inconsistent style

You mean incongruent styles? As in, incongruent to the host OS.

There is no doubt electron apps allow the style to be consistent across platforms.


No, they are also inconsistent: slack, vscode, zed, claude, chatgpt, figma, notion, zoom, docker desktop, to quote some that i use daily. They have all different UI patterns and design. The only thing they have in common is that are slow, laggy, difficult to use and don’t respond quickly to the Window manager.

Compare to other software on Mac such as Pages, Xcode, Tower, Transmission, Pixelmator, mp3tag, Table plus, Postico, Paw, Handbrake etc, (the other i use) etc those are a delight to work with and give me the computing experience I was looking for buying a Mac.


XCode and Pages are a delight in comparison to VSCode and Notion is certainly one of the takes of all time.

XCode is usually the first example that comes to mind of a terrible native app in comparison to the much nicer VSCode.


You missed my point. Electron apps are incongruent to native OS apps.

Electron apps look the same on each platform therefore they are consistent.

The meta point is the effort required to be consistent with the OS.

You listed MacOS only apps, emphasising the point.

To do a per OS consistent experience is N times the effort.


How much is Linus paying you?


Dark Sky weather app never landed in Europe while it was available in US for years. The complaint is legit.


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