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I pretty much agree because all really creative art will have some kind of novelty to it which a LLM wont be able to generate cause its outside the training data, except of course the initial burst of novelty from when the tech was new, which is more novelty being introduced into the field than most artists will ever accomplish.

I would love to try this experiment with something basketball sized out in space. Like we build an enormous basketball detector behind a double slit inside an unobservable black box. If thr basketball started acting like a wave I would be sooo freaked out

The largest double-slit projectile I know of is C-60, a soccer-ball shaped molecule of sixty atoms.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2058-7058/12/11/4


Wiki, citation 19

> The largest entities for which the double-slit experiment has been performed were molecules that each comprised 2000 atoms (whose total mass was 25,000 atomic mass units).[19]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment


That website's captcha is horrible!

Or amazing.

I got cats with sunglasses

Me too. And I had to click on bird legs to verify o_O

I don’t know what it’s called but I read about a proposed experiment to do it in space with macrosized glass beads.

If the slits are big enough, isn’t that just gravity?

And Why can't gravity serve as an observer?!

The electron/proton entering a slit is affected by gravity!


The entanglement theory would imply that if you build a detector that turns the gravity interaction into a finite piece of data observable by an (amplified) system, then gravity will act as an observer and collapse the waveform when it reaches that point. That's my take on the whole thing... It's almost like information theory. If the information is lost to the sands of time (below noise floor if you will) then the entanglement can continue.

From my recollection of Hawking - it’s the energy of light that disturbs the particle being measured thus confounding the measurement

Presumably a gravity based detector would have similar issues as these particles are affected by gravity (as can be seen around black holes)


Do you think you would understand every function in the doom codebase in under 5 seconds? Is this bad proframming then?

Making code faster without making it more difficult to read is an art so black that some people insist it doesn’t exist. Doom is about being fast.

Doom famously has a function in it so obscure that nobody remembers how they even came up with it.


You did not understand my original comment... Doom might be good code but its maintainability is horrendous in modern standards.

I moved from Australia to the USA (be careful who you swipe on dating apps) and went from paying 50% tax to 15% tax for basically the same job with basically the same quality of life. Tax in America is outrageously low which is no doubt why it cant balance its budget (though I approve of cutting government spending aswell).

> same quality of life

What is your bill when an ambulance brings you in? When you have a legal problem at your workplace? What will be your pension? How is the mass transit system? What do you pay for child care, how is your school, how safe is your neighborhood, how do the number of murders in your area compare?


Counterpoint: I’m in the US and my effective income tax rate is in the mid-40s, with my marginal rate over 50%. And I’m not in one of the few states with the highest state income taxes.

The highest federal bracket is 37%, the highest state bracket in the US is California at 13.3%, Medicare at 2.9% if you're self employed, NIIT caps out at 3.8% - so even earning well into seven plus figures, with punitive NIIT, only puts you at a max of 47% marginal. Social security taxes stop long before the brackets kick in.

NYC has combined local and state top marginal rates of 14.776%, to go up to 48.476%.

I call BS on marginal rates exceeding 50%

Edit: even the new 2024 California payroll tax cap lift and mental health tax on seven figure incomes put it at 49.1%. Marginal rates that high don't exist in the US. Even then that requires paying payroll taxes and NIIT on the same income, which I'm pretty sure is impossible.


Thanks for the correction- I did some math and my marginal rate is something like 46%, which, while it’s indeed not over 50%, still is pretty discouraging when weighing whether it’s worth putting in enough effort to get another raise.

A quick back of the envelope calculation shows that an income of $1 million gets you an effective tax rate in the mid 40s in California.

AGI: $1000k Federal Income Tax: $322k California State Income Tax: $102k FICA Taxes: $32k Total tax: $456k

Compared to say Germany, where for the same income you would be paying over 50% in taxes. So I think you're doing very well.


Admittedly I live in Texas (no state income tax) but where do you pay 40%? California?

25(federal)+8(social security)+5(state) is a common combination. That's 38%.

God forbid you live in NYC and it can gonna to 42%


A single W-2 earner making $1 million has a 33.49% effective federal tax rate (OASDI, Medicare, Income) taking only the standard deductible and doing nothing else to lower their taxable income (no tax advantaged accounts, not spending enough in categories that allow itemization, etc.). A single non-W-2 earner (has to pay the employer part of payroll taxes) has an effective rate of 34.84%.

If they're married the rates are 29.62% (W-2) and 30.97% (non-W-2), under the same assumption that they do not do anything to qualify for either reduced taxable income or any kind of rebate or credit.

Most people don't make $1 million, and those that do have ways to reduce their tax burden quite a bit without much trouble.

EDIT: Small modifications to the numbers above, they were off by about 0.4% to 0.5%.


Social security is 6.2% and is capped (you only pay social security taxes on a max income of $168,600). So if your income is 168,600 you pay $10,453 in social security taxes.

And if your income is $1,000,000 you still only pay $10,453 in social security tax.


$176,100 this year, and you should also include Medicare which is 1.45% and has the same cap. That does mean a base 7.65% federal tax rate for most W-2 earners. But when you work out the math on the effective tax rates for income tax (not payroll) it takes a lot to hit 25% as your effective federal income tax rate.

Around $350,000 gets you to a 24.8% effective federal income tax rate if you're single and only take the standard deductible, $700k if married. That puts you in the top 3% and 1%, respectively, of incomes in the US these days.

But that gets reduced when you include things like tax advantaged retirement accounts, various tax credits, dependents, paying for health insurance, possibly being able to itemize (more likely at those incomes than the US median income). So really you have to be making something like $400k-500 as a single person to hit 25%, and $800k+ for a married person.


In US, employer pays their share of social security + medicare taxes, which is about 7.6%. If you are self-employed, you need to pay both the employee and the employer side (about 15.2% taxes, mandatory).

When we briefly had a balanced budget (kinda, if you squint just the right way) we had 1990s tax levels and a major economic boom.

We’ve since had two major rounds of tax cuts by republicans, so a balanced budget isn’t feasible even in booms and when we’re not deficit spending on two stupid wars. And now we’ve got all the interest on the debt from those tax cuts and wars to worry about.

If only anyone could have predicted this. Oh wait, everyone who knew anything about taxation policy did.


"Tax in America is outrageously low which is no doubt why it cant balance its budget"

Neither can France, which redistributes over 50 per cent of its GDP.

The hunger for public monies will eventually outrun any feasible taxation system.


Australia ought to start paying tribute to China instead of USA and invest in chinese subs rather than USA ones which will never be delivered anyway

The devil you know…

No one would ever trust China, not Vietnam, not anyone unwilling to take orders from them. The terms would be heavy.


Like all things it depends on the terms, in my mind though China would probably be incentivized to give us a good deal - Im sure they would be very amused delivering real hardware while the USA continues to demonstrate their incompetence at shipbuilding. It would also signal that Australia wants to sit out any USA/China war, which might be hard to do politically (which is maybe why Im not PM) but its certainly the position I hope Aus ends up taking should these 2 buffoons start a real blue

Why? They can buy subs from France who was the other option when Australia was last shopping around.

Let’s switch suppliers a second time?

We need to pay the money to USA as tribute so its a write-off anyway, but I have low confidence we will ever see working hardware from it. However I bet China would actually prioritise delivery of some new subs if we pivoted to using them as our naval supplier, to win mindshare in the west as an alternative to America or Russia as an arms supplier. and we set up the next 100 years of paying off bigger countries to leave us alone, which honestly worked well enough the last 100 years

Eh. They aren't meant to be delivered for at least 5 years by which point US politics will have swung the other direction again.

This medievil view of Europe as vassals instead of allies is why US is about to get a medievil style government again.

And European leaders drunk on atlanticist koolaid brainwashing them into thinking that they're allies / partners instead of vassals is why they're in this mess to began with. It's always been medievil beneath the veneer.

Americans all have this attitude that theyre "on the hook" for everyone elses defence as if theyre the white knight defending the world against evil. Its more like the local mob tough guys who have been taking protection money for the last 40 years backed down when a rival gang finally decided to make a move

Please don't use sweeping generalizations like this.

The hyperbole interferes with construction discussion.


Are you a LLM? This is what the rest of the world feels mate!! Its a part of the discussion.

There are lots of sites you can visit to vent your emotions by making inflammatory, inaccurate generalizations to a receptive, cheering echo chamber.

Let's not do that here.


Its an accurate generalization

> Americans all have this attitude

...

> Its an accurate generalization

I'm American, and I don't have that view. So it's clearly not literally true.

So perhaps you mean that it's "mostly" true. Then I'd ask, what evidence do you have to support that? Is there some poll of public opinion you can refer to? That's something we could meaningfully discuss.


Actually, your view is true even if there exists even just one person with your view. In reality what matters is the distribution of views. Furthermore, what matters is the distribution of views by the decision makers because those will be divorced from public distribution and informed by other secret plans or information unknown to public. So in a sense, it doesn't matter whether he is right or you are.

You are incredibly insulated. Read some books about the world and world history.

Here's one for you: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/vincent-bevins/the-...


I wonder if you've misunderstood the topic of this thread.

We've been discussing whether or not certain views are held by nearly 100% of current Americans.

IIUC, that book focuses on evils done by the US government in 1965. I'm not seeing the connection.


If one more billionaire escapes legal justice this decade, the relative threat might just be a prolitariat revolution.

Most cancers didnt grow because some high and mighty body willed it into existence, they did it within a system of biological laws and conditions that admittedly the body does generate


Teenage girls as a group probably have more chemical imbalance than any other group alive, Im not sure what is surprising here, we have the medicine why not use it. I bet a bunch of mostly male adult programmers will have a truly deep and nuanced understanding of this issue though


What makes you say that teenage girls are the most chemically imbalanced group?


Because he's probably a mostly male adult programmer.


Fighting stereotypes with stereotypes :)


What are your credentials or sources to assert a "chemical imbalance" in millions of people?


Have you never had a teenage daughter? They're a full-boil chemistry experiment.


"Chemical imbalance" is the wrong model and asserts culture over nature, but sort of like menopause being a biological control to prevent resource competition between younger and older females in populations, I'd wager that behaviors that create conflict or distance between newly sexually mature offspring and parents/family could serve the role of decreasing the likelihood of incest.


> "Chemical imbalance" is the wrong model and asserts culture over nature

It's the model in use. Calling it "wrong" is at odds with the medical community. I get it, but it's not a compelling statement.

Regardless, coinciding with tighter tracking of populations, especially from schools, the last few decades have shown that young girls are at high risk for depression and suicide. Some calling it an epidemic. I'm sure you can find the TED talks, news articles, etc

Notably, this is backed by CDC data. It is not stated what is causal nor how effective anti-depressants are, as a treatment, but they are an option that many parents and children choose.


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