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I took that to mean the language and tooling were hostile, not the community.

The Clojure community is great, but Clojure/Core has historically not been interested in lowering the barrier to entry with Clojure. I think this is part of what Steve is referring to.

Would love to hear more about this. AFAICT (from using it every day for 4 years), it's all pretty awesome (except startup time, but that doesn't matter much because REPL).

We're discussing this a bit more on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/3jjit5/what_does_s...

The startup time bothered me, as I kept crashing my REPL.

They mention it's meant to be low level so people using React, Glitter etc would use the same API and maybe only have to dive into it for additional performance gains

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Off topic, but was surprised to see this on Medium instead of Google Plus or Blogger(does it still exist?).

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There's also the loud "excuse me" with upwards inflection which denotes the person has taken huge offence.

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Hiding that chat with chrome tools was the first thing I did upon opening the stream.

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ClojureScript is pretty cool!

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It's just for "let" AFAICT.

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Only for let, const, class, and function in block. Like the slide says!

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Isn't the theory around the uberman that in those 20 min you go straight into deep sleep?

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yup, parent is talking without knowledge of uberman

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There are also people that don't know but get lucky.

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This is a large multinational with an outstanding track record of acquisitions. The plan was pretty good.

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have you tried something like tmuxinator so create/restore sessions?

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May I suggest a more lightweight alternative for Tmux/Screen/DVTM sessions - http://zserge.com/blog/mucks2.html ?

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