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MaVeNS. Mobile-Video-Native-Social.

Yahoo's goal is turn that into a billion business to offset the declining traditional display ads business by the old media Yahoo.

Foursquare fits three of those four, in that imagine soon intermixed in between all the swarming chatter of the best places to eat, drink, and dance submitted by user will be sponsored ads made to look like regular user discussions, extolling you to try out this other place to eat, drink, dance.

In the future servers are paid for by shilling.


> In the future servers are paid for by shilling.

What? This sounds interesting but I don't understand what you mean. Could you elaborate?


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Funny, when Zynga first grew it was remarked as being dominant because of the tight Facebook partnership. When Zynga and FB broke up it's now pointed that it's because Zynga got to the dance too early.

The greater context is that all these coin-op arcade companies fizzle, leading all the way from Atari down. What happened to Rovio? To King? Likely the same ending for Riot to Supercell.

You get 2 to 3 years, maybe 5 tops, then you get replaced. The real game is figuring out how to grab as much cash off the table without looking as cynical and jaded and greedy as you really are.


Somewhere right now exists a person that has put in the least amount of effort and got out the maximum return.

Whether it's a dollar spent on a lottery ticket that yielded millions of dollars, or it's one resume that got noticed by the right person, or it's one hello that led to a storybook romance.

You, in comparison, will have it hard.

Likewise, a billion people right now wake up with no electricity, no water, no food. Or they have some, but not enough. Or they have enough but the amount of manual labor and effort they put in to getting said resources takes a lot.

Whether it's trading their health, their dignity, or their honor for said resources.

You, in comparison, have it better and easier.

You are in the middle of this game that's lasted for the entirety of humanity.

The game is also built upon perception and presentation. Meaning many others purposely spend themselves dedicated to presenting themselves to others as successful and happy while hiding the ugliness. It's conditioned into us from parenting, schooling, and advertising.

Any deviance is seen as something to run away from. Any failure seen as bad. Hard work and struggling itself isn't valuable, success from hard work and struggling is lauded.

Your choices are to focus harder and harder on what you don't have or to focus on adding to your life. One good strategy for adding to your life is helping others with no expectations. Detachment from expectations is most important, as that's what causes suffering when your expectations and reality do not match up.

The choice is yours.


Waiter.com is pissed


It's like caffeine without side effects. Front end of the 24 hours you can be productive with detailed tasks but towards the latter part you're best with menial tasks, like cleaning.


no headaches?


My car's in the shop getting fixed so I've been using Uber and Lyft in the suburban south bay--a market of long roads, horrible traffic conditions, and high rate of personal car ownership.

Since the past week I've learned a few things:

- all the drivers have both apps running and have no loyalty

- drivers prefer uber customers, however

- drivers don't like lyft's demo of college kids and local rides, it earns them no money

- lyft drivers think uber is evil, uber drivers thinks lyft drivers are hippies

- all the international travelers coming into silicon valley have uber and used to uber service

- uber dispatches to lyft dispatches are a 5 to 1 ratio

- drivers always complain lyft keeps them afloat but doesn't get them ahead

- uber, whether intentionally or not, actually has viable career plan. an uber black driver i rode with on the lyft service explained how after selling his real estate company and investing in three lincoln escalades was able to make his money back on one of the cars after 7 months.

- all the drivers concur uber is pretty evil, don't like the 1099 relationship, hate how uber corporate doesn't support the drivers over customers or incidents, yet sadly resign and accept the situation. it's oddly depressing talking to a uber driver.

Over half a billion dollars at the E round is quite a lot to drop into a "community" instead of Uber's business.

Hopefully the money is put into innovating locally instead of international expansion because they're definitely losing the game. And when the automated cars are here it would have been the tech game's worst investment cycle.


"all the drivers have both apps running"

"lyft drivers think uber is evil, uber drivers thinks lyft drivers are hippies"



Sounds about right from my experience.

In SF I have noticed the first part to have changed over the past 6months. I used to see a lot of drivers with both apps, now I see it less.

The rest makes sense those. Even for those that have both apps, you can tell that their personality fits with either uber or lyft.


It's like brand allegiance in consumer brands. You might be a Apple user but have to use Windows to make a living.


Re: Investing in the Escalades, can you explain how that business model works?

Does the owner of the vehicles lease the vehicles out to drivers who then use them to provide Uber Black-car service?


He sold his real estate business to fund his first car, after driving for a few months he invested in two additional cars qualifying for the Uber Black service. He gives these cars to his cousins to drive, taking 10% gross. He's now working with his friend from back in the Arizona metropolitan area to repeat the process with more cars.


some of your statements seem contradictory. I'm in the bay area - I'll offer my perspective.

- all the drivers have both apps running and have no loyalty

Lyft offers a very strong driver incentive, and that has kept me off of the uber platform since I moved to oakland (and drive in SF) in december.

- drivers prefer uber customers, however

In San Diego (a different market) I really hated the uber customers and preferred the college demo. In SF, I never liked the uber customers, either, and I really liked the lyft demo, so I dropped uber.

- drivers don't like lyft's demo of college kids and local rides, it earns them no money

I think that's a south bay thing. One afternoon after a meeting in Palo Alto, I attempted to escape back to the city and wound up getting vortexed into Stanford, so I just got out of there.

- lyft drivers think uber is evil, uber drivers thinks lyft drivers are hippies - all the international travelers coming into silicon valley have uber and used to uber service


- uber dispatches to lyft dispatches are a 5 to 1 ratio

This is a function not only of demand but also supply. In particular, in San Diego, I found that the dispatches were in a 2:1 ratio, BUT if I favored lyft rides over uber rides by strategically turning the app off, I was making significantly more per week, because lyft's "loyalty program" is strong.

- uber, whether intentionally or not, actually has viable career plan. an uber black driver i rode with on the lyft service explained how after selling his real estate company and investing in three lincoln escalades was able to make his money back on one of the cars after 7 months.

Well if this guy had some initial capital beforehand a 'real estate company' this doesn't mean much. It might be more difficult to bootstrap this from scratch, which is what you are suggesting when you say 'viable career plan'. This is also contradicted by your projection of automated cars.

By contrast, during my down time from lyft, I'm running a nonprofit research organization and also coding a backend for a startup.

- all the drivers concur uber is pretty evil, don't like the 1099 relationship, hate how uber corporate doesn't support the drivers over customers or incidents, yet sadly resign and accept the situation. it's oddly depressing talking to a uber driver.

Lyft has this 1099 relationship too, and it makes it for very tough running sometimes. But you just have to roll with the punches and keep hustling.


I've ridden/driven for both Lyft and Uber in SF and it was crystal clear that more people actually like the Lyft experience. And that both riders & drivers generally choose one or the other and stick to it.


<< and investing in three lincoln escalades

Lincoln Navigator, or Cadillac Escalade perhaps? Interesting points though, even if a lot of them are contradictory. In Los Angeles, I've similarly observed most drivers using both Lyft and Uber. I imagine that the Bay Area market is more saturated and that a driver could be kept busy on just one service, but I get the feeling it's not quite up to that level in LA.


Think this through a bit more because your explanation is lacking. Humans make objects every day to replace things. There are more expandable objects than there are expandable human beings.

Nimrod was suffering to exposure to the deserts prior to this. Now it's gone. Much like how plenty of things throughout human history that holds great value goes away.

Things we don't even know of or comprehend of value also goes away.

You thinking the destruction affects you so much is purely because of selfish ego.


I wager this is more about hubris than motivating hatred, which is kind of small minded comparatively.

If I were to hold strongly the belief that I am the next prophet of Mohammed, that I am the literal vessel and messenger of god, and that I have conspired with others that also hold similar beliefs that I am the chosen one, then together we eradicate borders between Syria and Iraq maybe how I see the world is a bit off kilter too.

I mean, I did happen to change international borders drawn in for decades by those western infidels, and that I am now in control of a literal Islamic caliphate meant to last for another three thousand years.

I would bulldoze anything and everything that stands contrary to my belief.

For I am already god. It would stand to reason that 3,000 year old statues would mean nothing.

Much like how Ai Wei Wei smashes 2,000 year old Ming vases.

I respond to this with neither anger nor sadness because it's egotistical for one to hold ownership to 3,000 year old objects and it's emotionally fragile to declare attachment to objects they have never seen before nor care much about until now.

Respond to the bullying and toxicity with apathy. Respond to the world around you with care and compassion. That's the only lesson here.

Though, tbh, US Marines need to be sent out to wrap up this mess of a job.


Respond to the bullying and toxicity with apathy. Respond to the world around you with care and compassion. That's the only lesson here.

I like this. Good attitude. Anger < Sadness < Care/Compassion.


This illustrates that feel: http://imgur.com/r/IASIP/YQi3ZFz


Technology has a delayed effect. As in what was high-tech back then is low-tech now. Computers have finally become low-tech.

Apple is top heavy, the ones in charge are the ones that scraped to the top and didn't retire or leave. They have with them the ideas that came about and pioneered in the 60's and 70's and are only finally now being in the position and getting around to implementing them.

Underneath them is a cadre of management that grew up and holding on to ideas from the 80's and 90's and only are now in a position to suggesting them to someone else with more power and abilities and getting the okay to try them.

Apple is really a stack of computing ideas from the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. Starting with the Macintosh derived from the mother of all demos to now we're finally getting around to implementing the idea of a central mainframe with diskless devices accessing it.

A "cloud" with black mirrors everywhere giving you value? Oh, my, that sounds like what Larry Ellison saw as the future with the Network Computer back in 1996.

I'm old though. Accepting this new reality that this red-headed stepchild of a computer we used to argue about during elementary school recess about which is better turns out to become the most valuable company in a world and is finally in a position to push through something as magical as instant access to computing everywhere.

That is freakin' amazing.


I share the feeling, but at the same time Apple seems to be what Sony was back in the day. They have central very successful products, and are spreading their influence in numerous new markets while betting a lot on artificial restrictions keeping users in their ecosystem.

Sony wasn't the biggest company in the world I think, and the game was a lot more primitive back then, but I remember owning a walkman with a Cybershot, a Sony music compo and at the end a matching laptop because all of there where integrated. If I had the money at the time I'd bought a Handicam and a matching TV in a heartbeat.

Sony seemed unstoppable, until the pieces just crumbled; there would be way better laptops, the camera market evolved and there were far from keeping in touch with the best players in the field, then the music industry moved on, and keeping the integration going on becomes more and more compromising.

With today's Apple, while they are spreading, the same cracks seem to appear to me.

They still have very competitive products on each market, but these are more and more compromised as deep design decisions are made and the competition is getting better.

As an anecdote, a year ago I broke my iPhone and decided to go android for a few month waiting for the iPhone 6, and surprisingly to me it didn't really matter much in my day to day use, except for the artificial limitations (no iCloud, no iMessage) on the integration. But these limitations instead of being a deal breaker, really forced me to go into Google/third party centric services on my laptop/ipad/other family members devices. In a Apple heavy household there is now one device that forces the others to change service providers for central things like email, messaging, calendar, online storage, and the thing is it's not really difficult nor handicapping, the pros and cons balance very well.

Interestingly enough, with Apple Pay, Apple is starting to step on the feet of the new Sony who've been investing in payment processing and ecosystem for so many years now.

TLDR; I think Apple has started playing a game that put them in a position where they have to be better than everyone else at basically everything. Right now I don't think they are at the top of their game, especially in giving options to their customers or software quality/reliability. So, while they have a ton of money and are super successful, I think there is even bigger pitfalls waiting for them ahead. Hope they don't fall.


Sony absolutely couldve continued to own the portable media player market.

They decided to use smaller, more expensive storage, with no discernible reason to choose their players over existing ones that used standard storage like SD cards.

I worked for an electronics retailler around the time that the iPod came out (our store didnt sell Apple products at all) but it was obvious that Sony would burn out their loyal customer base just from the number of people we had coming in complaining about their memory costing 2-3x for the exact same storage size.

People got turned off the brand due to bad experiences


Totally. They had a string of bad decisions when it came to the overall experience, the network walkman with loading the songs from usb was a nightmare too, hardware quality also degraded over time.

I've been reminded of these when I has to sync to my computer to load arbitrary mp3 in the iOS library. The tracks are on a NAS, I could get them through dropbox as well, or any other way, really. But I have to go through iTunes if I want to add it to the library and listem to them through the main music player (and since at the start every app duplicating existing fonctionnality were refused, there's just no compelling, high quality alternative player not relying on the song library)

This is a single bit of annoyance, but then you still have to juggle with the libraries' respective itunes accounts, getting your tracks randomly deleted while syncing to a new computer etc.

It's still somewhat better than what I had to deal with when I was using a Sony MD with digital tracks. But for comparison I don't have these music related pbs on android.


Apple improved on Sony's success by understanding how to integrate open or semi-open ecosystems which Sony still doesn't really comprehend.

Apple's analog is web services, which, to their credit they have tried harder to figure out then Sony ever did with open ecosystems, but which they likely will never be able to compete with Google.

That said, I'm still not seeing the cracks yet since their software/hardware integration UX combo and ongoing mindshare with creatives is setting a bar that no one else has the vertical integration to approach. Google's services are clearly superior to Apple, but that only puts Android on equal footing with iPhone, it's a long way from a knockout blow.


I think Apple really learned from Sony that they need to master the whole stack for a product. Windows was really a bad bad fit for Sony, i seriously think they should have bet the farm and tried to have their own OS, be it linux or a BSD variant and licensing a professional looking office suite.

They did it with Playstation, they would have been in a better shape if they went this way from the start.

About the cracks in Apple's integration, I think even the most vocal people only have mild complaints for now. But it seems money and power and mindshare are not enough for Apple to get the resources to fix these, and there are obviously planning to spread even thinner.

I also think the competition doesn't have to be absolutely better than Apple, just bring unmatched features that would tip the balance for specific consumers. Like the digitizer in the MS surface, or waterproof android phones, etc. Once one of the device is a non Apple one, it brings the potential value of the whole ecosystem way down.


To me Sony lost because they didn't understand non embedded 'software'. Sony had talent and mastery over hardware internals and interfaces (fixed set of physical inputs). It was new and difficult, you had to make strict physical compromises, something nowadays software doesn't have to. Their pre 90s hardware did what you wanted earlier and better than others, now they're selling sub par products (they don't own TVs, laptops, media devices like they did) thanks to their past glory.

The thing is, their skills aren't worthless, I often wonder how they managed to design and ship things that would work right away without the ability to fix it later at low-cost like a software patch. Also, I kinda miss dedicated physical interfaces. As amazing as speaking to your phone is, I think that touching stuff is valuable for mammals.


I'll tell you the secret why: Sony aggressively expanded in the 80's and got into the media business.

The values couldn't and didn't align.

The idea is the synergy of Sony electronics and Sony entertainment would create something amazing but the reality was Sony electronics and Sony entertainment couldn't, wouldn't, and didn't play together.

Whatever the electronics side made, even if technically better than anything on market, had to be locked down to appease the entertainment side.

But the entertainment side didn't get big enough to be making such demands.

Sony also didn't make the jump to digital as fast as it could so upstarts were able to come in. I remember the transition from minidisc to MP3 player. THAT WAS PAINFUL and did not need to happen. Nor the subsequent jumps of oh hey, buy content again and again as different formats to fit into your playstation or your TV or your walkman.

There's a massive treasure chest, massive inertia, massive momentum, and again... it's freakin' amazing to me how much we clutch our little black mirrors and how central everything has been.

I'm rooting for a Wintel underdog comback.


Personally I would make a lot of sacrificies to have a super solid software/hardware solution.

Where sony lost me was the abyssimal software quality of their products. Ignore the DRM, ignore the licensing limitations. Their music management software was clunky, limited, slow, had critical bugs and barely had enough functionnalities to be usable. I was loosing my time clicking and dragging everywhere to transfer my music, the NetMD went to a drawer and I bought an ipod. I just seems so hard for traditional big japanese companies to benefit from talented developpers.

Their laptop line has/had good specs, but the windows integration is perfectible at best. I can't imagine trying to update the drivers or doing anything non sanctionned on them. One of my relatives has one, and my MBA performs better 4 years down the line while it went out roughly at the same time for the same price. I don't see wintel becoming an underdog anytime soon, but I'd love ubuntu in this role.


>I'm rooting for a Wintel underdog comback.

Yes, if only because Wintel has a history of relative openness and backward compatibility.

However, the new Microsoft board is going in a different direction, prioritizing cloud and cross-platform over Windows. Hence Win10 will be cheap/free and continually updated by the cloud without notice, i.e. it becomes a non-deterministic magic box. Businesses will have to pay for Windows not to change.


You're assuming those two things are survival traits


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