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yes, but why isn't it optimised? not as extreme as doom had to be, but to be a bit better? especially the low hanging fruits.

this is why i think there's another version for customers who are paying for it, with tuning, optimization, whatever.


the question is, what's your use case?

for me it's a family photo backup with calendars (private and shared ones) running in a VM on the net.

its webui is rarely used by anyone (except me), everyone is using their phones (calendars, files).

does it work? yes. does anyone other than me care about the bugs? no. but noone really _uses_ it as if it was deployed for a small office of 10-20-30 people. on the other hand, there are companies paying for it.

for this,


it's bad for everything.

i have lots of txt files on my phone which are just not synced up to my server (the files on the server are 0 byte long).

i'm using txt files to take notes because the Notes app never worked for me (I get sync errors on any android phone while it works on iphone).


nextcloud just feels abandoned, even if it isn't of course.

maybe paying customers are getting a different/updated/tuned version of it. maybe not. but the only thing that keeps me using it is there isn't any real selfhosted alternatives.

why is it slow? if you just blink or take a breath, it touches the database. years ago i've tried to optimise it a bit and noticed that there are horrible amount of DB transactions there without any apparent reason.

also, the android client is so broken...


I'm not sure why you feel like it is abandoned. There is a steady release cadence and the changelog[0] clearly shows that much is being worked on.

[0]: https://nextcloud.com/changelog/#latest32


yes of course there's progress and new features and it's not really abandoned per se.

but the feeling is that the outdated or simply bad decisions aren't fixed or redesigned.

it could be made 100 times better.


Because it feels worse and more broken as time goes on. Just like any other abandoned web app, except it's being made worse and slower as an active, deliberate, ongoing choice


i immediately stop reading any article when I see the word "interwebs".


he may be good at C but not that good. no one's that good. and this stupid overconfidence leads to sec holes.


"and all was bounds-checked at memory cost but the results were awesome. Defensive programming all the way : all bugs are reduced to zero right from the start."

a bit LOL, isn't it?

also the part about terraform, ansible and the other stuff.


For me, these are the main use-case differences.

1. if I start something which will run for a long time and/or the connection is unstable, I start a screen session on the remote node and start the program in it

2. if I want to check something (i.e. tail -f foo.log) on several servers at the same time, I start tmux on my machine, create 2,3,...,N panes and in each pane I ssh to the 1-1 remote server and start tail -f foo.log there. So I'll see the logs at the same time on several servers, just like if I had 1-1 monitor for each remote server.


I use tmux specifically for your first example. I'm not a power user, but after trying screen and tmux, I didn't find anything missing in tmux (relative to screen) and I found it easier to do the things I was interested in. I also like having the ability to attach to an existing tmux session or start one if it doesn't already exist by using something like this: "tmux new -A -s me", which I have as an alias and "me" is just a name for the tmux session. I'm not sure if screen has this feature, but I found this single command lets me get going with a multi-window session without having to first check if I already have a session running.


The Old Reader in browser and as backend for FeedMe on phone.


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