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This is not about capitalism. They will lose money on it long term and they know it otherwise they'll done it long ago.

This is move to moderated censored platform under regulatory "protect the children" pressurre and hysteria.

This is not affecting publishing games for 16+ audience.


People here in comments seem to not read past the title that editorized, but in a wrong way.

This is basically only requirement to make games available for players under 16 so its certnly done under regulatory pressure because no way on earth they can moderate every game from unpaid users.


What about if a kid under the age of 16 wants to publish a game for other under 16 year old friends, like what Roblox was created for?

Now they need a paid subscription with an id check to become a 'trusted friend'.


I am 17, I wasn't really a roblox player aside from playing with one of my friends once or twice[0] (more of a minecraft enthusiast) but I know or can tell there are sizable amount of people online who have only played roblox, some even started because of it under age of 16 and learnt to code because of it.

My point is, many people around me or online really really love roblox and they even start to code because of it. I mean it makes sense, Coding something translates to something directly cool. I wanted to make Minecraft plugins too but I always found java to be a bit distressing so I used to search how to make minecraft mods in python or lua when I was 15 or something, I personally never really got into roblox though (I maybe the exception rather than norm) but I suppose lua/luau makes that process a bit easier and so its gonna be a big hurdle to most youngsters who wish to code.

Also I am not fine with Age verification as well but oh well, I could've maybe understood it but what I don't understand is how a billion dollar company needs a few dollars for moderation. I feel like its just a net negative and is gonna create backlash and rightfully so in some sense.

Anecdotally one of my friends back in 10th grade (so 14-15 year olds) actually learnt lua just to make a roblox game or games in general and he was an artist, (one of the most artistic people I know) like firstly his drawings were some of the most amazing in our friend-group and he had made some quite significant amount of money by doing blender for roblox devs and he just said that he likes blender so he gets them to buy blender plugins rather than money itself. He really wanted to get into gamedev.

And I think once again my main point is that, there would be less people interested in game-dev overall. I mean we all start somewhere and I find the idea of taking subscription money a little dis-tasteful for Roblox to do.


why the lucky stiff, an eccentric ruby programmer, wrote an article that you might like, The Little Programmer’s Predicament, https://viewsourcecode.org/why/hacking/theLittleCodersPredic...

Read the article, I find it a bit fascinating how the article was written even more than 5 years before I was even born!, yet nothing has changed, maybe only gotten worse especially for windows.

Also now most things happen on phone which make programming notoriously harder.

I think Linux might be interesting here, most Linux distros come with python , I have recommended it to some friends and one of them uses it but yeah, ironically the problem with Linux in my generation to many people feels like they will miss their games. The state of gaming in Linux is now for the most part really good though but still, I sort of understand this statement and I feel like Linux just feels alien. I mean when I downloaded Linux, I didn't know too much about the command line and it felt foreign until it feels at home.


Exactly, this will marginalize the creators of tomorrow who might have picked this up and built something, will now hesitate and probably try to find something else to build on. The people building giant games full of "buy this crap" every 5 seconds, spamming my 6 year old with prompts, they will continue doing so.

For friends, they need to do an age estimation only.

To publish globally for <16 users, the id check and subscription requirements then apply.


In the linked page, point 2 literally says this:

Publish to 16+ and Trusted Friends - To publish a game that reaches Trusted Friends and users over 16 you must:

a. Complete an age check b. Have an account in good standing c. Have an account on Roblox that’s been on the platform for at least 2 days


Yeah. Can you point out where what you said and what I said differ?

The paid subscription is for publishing to <16 users globally.


You said

> For friends, they need to do an age estimation only.

Thats not true. It says to share with trusted friends and 16+ they need an account in good standing (paid) and an age check, which constitues sending a face scan or id.

I literally pasted the rule directly from their site, Im surprised you dont understand it.


"Good standing" means your account wasn't moderated for violating the community standards [1] (exploiting, saying bad words, threatening users, uploading illicit content, etc).

I'm dev games on Roblox. Trust me, you're the one confused here.

[1] https://about.roblox.com/community-standards


You are still ignoring the fact that they have to provide a face scan to publish to trusted friends now.

Also that kids < 16 might be the ones who want to share games to thir friends who are < 16. They still need to pay a subscription and submit face scans to do that now which they didnt before. Thats the whole issue here.


> You are still ignoring the fact that they have to provide a face scan to publish to trusted friends now.

Nope. First thing I said was "For friends, they need to do an age estimation only."


Imagine mafia knocking on your door and putting a gun to your head because some journalist figured out you are secret billionare.

Not cool?


How is it different from all the non-secret billionaires to say nothing of all the people with 100s of millions?

You really dont get it? Because real billionares have the money and you dont.

Journalists just told everyone you are billionare, but you're just average SWE on $120k / year and absolutely no money for hiring small army of guards. Neither your own government agencies keep your back protected like they do for usual high profile people.

Now go find a proof for mafia that you are not in fact have a billion bucks on USD stick.

This has happened in this Satoshi hunt multiple times already. I mean finding that some random crypto related SWE is Satoshi when they are not.


> you're just average SWE on $120k / year and absolutely no money for hiring small army of guards

FWIW, in this instance Adam Back is also a non-secret billionaire, mostly from his public involvement in a number of ventures within the Bitcoin ecosystem. The difference is closer to 1 order of magnitude than the 4 you're proposing.


You are right, but this is not the first investigation.

Also there is massive difference between being rich, or even a super rich and literally hidding $50B under your bedsheet on USB stick.

No one expects that putting a gun to even a super rich person head will buy you a small country. You can kill a billionare, but you cant extract much value out of it other than $100k on their credit card and $500k watch neither of which you can really sell.

Havimg keys to $50B on USB stick is different level of danger.


Satoshi is a paper billionaire - he can't use a small fraction of his "wealth" to hire proper security. Simultaneously his "assets" are much more attractive to criminals. Imagine holding a regular billionaire hostage and demanding they give you a billion dollars. They'd probably have to sell 1B worth of stock, then convert it to cash (or crypto), etc. all of that requiring multiple interactions with different people and institutions.

Heisting multiple billions worth of crypto would have the same issues, just to a smaller degree. If that much illicit money is on the line, `mJurisdiction` which normally looks the other way might be tempted to investigate and confiscate it for their own benefit.

They also can't easily sell that amount quickly without repercussions (and without another institution like an exchange).

You're right, but only to a limited degree.


Even if you put a gun to Bill Gates' head, signing over all his wealth to you would still require a lengthy process, not just handing over some keys.

They have Elon money, let’s stop pretending they are some precious little sweetheart.

After events of last 4 years in Russia you can probably be killed there for $100 or for a wrong look. Lots of trigger happy ex-convict veterans with PTSD are around.

For now they are busy killing their wives and relatives, but eventually they will run out of money for alcohol and will have to find a "job".


sad state indeed. people deserve better than that

This is what you get when majority of country is ignoring politics, dont participate in electiom process, dont fight for their rights, etc.

I find it weird to defend Russia but you seem to be missing couple things. most importantly - it's not homogeneous, not even a republic. there's around 190 ethnic groups and ~40 officially recognized separatist groups. and that's important because it skews national narrative, mandates harder punishments and corruption as a crutch. when the media follows "99% heroic bullshit, 1% truth" scheme, it's somewhat challenging not to ignore politics - you get bored of it

This. Imagine being targeted by actual government agencies of russia, north korea and iran who wouldn't mind to take some of your bitcoins.

It's not even hundreds of millions. It's tens of billions of dollars if we suppose someone actually have access to these wallets.

Bitcoins across old unused wallets worth $30B to $80B depend of how you count it.


> Bitcoins across old unused wallets worth $30B to $80B depend of how you count it.

It's worth considerably less if you make any attempt to count it accurately. The market capitalization reflects the fact that old unused wallets are unused. If they stopped being unused, market capitalization would drop.


In some sense they are even completely worthless - just tokens in a wealth redistribution scheme not connected to notable real value production.

If the system does crash, nothing of value would be lost. And we would be rid of ransomware.


Well not nothing, we have already loss an incalculable amount of money, resources, energy and time to generating Bitcoin and any other coin.

I always assumed these wallets were never meant to be withdrawn. In the case of satoshi’s - it’s public proof that the Bitcoin network is still secure.

Might be it even not using all your code to train AI. Or at least not asking your explicit permission to do it.

Not every conversation has to be a conversation about AI.

Not every conversation but as long as GitHub is the most popular code hosting platform it's very much relevant to that discussion.

This is an article about an encryption software project getting their Microsoft account terminated. It’s not the place to spam a completely off-topic complaint about the AI use of a service completely unrelated to the project.

sourceforge was always very scummy, I think they would definitely use the code for that if they could

It wasn’t always scummy… but there was a definite shift after they got bought. It’s kept getting worse since then.

Then again, this was something like 20 years ago. Back then, Sourceforge was something closer to GitHub today. It was the de facto public source repository. You could even get an on-premise version, IIRC.

Actually, this is sounding a lot like GitHub these days… not sure what that means.


As I've said elsewhere, freshmeat.net was better :-)

For project discovery, definitely -- but not as a source code repository.

Wow, we're dating ourselves on this, but I remember when it was a big deal that SF.net added SVN support. They apparently didn't turn off CVS until 2017!


Yeah, I remember introducing a web dev company to SVN in about oh maybe 2006. Prior to that their "version control" was a webroot full of shit like "index.php", "index.php.old", "index.php.broken", "index.ryan.donottouch.php", "indexTUESDAY.php" and so on.

Yeah no, guys, that's not what I meant. Let me just show you this real quick...

I wonder if enough of freshmeat still exists on the Wayback machine to make a clone, maybe a skin for forgejo?

Simpler times, simpler everything.


Copilot Copilot Copilot Copilot


I guess it does sort of work as a "grammatical infinity" idea https://medium.com/luminasticity/cardinality-and-growth-rate...

Like an imperative, because copilot can exist as a verb, I copilot a plane, and Copilot can exist as a software product, and as a helper in a software product that is itself a software product that helps you use the software product it is a helper to

So Copilot copilot! could be an imperative for Copilot to Copilot, and Copilot Copilot could be a description of a software product that helps people use a software product named Copilot, but the second is not really grammatically correct as a sentence, whereas the imperative is.

So in the end I guess you could have a Copilot Copilot..[infinite Copilots]..copilot!


Copilot copilots Copilot copilots copilot copilot Copilot copilots


Woah that actually works...

Microsoft-Copilot-branded copilots, which other Microsoft-Copilot-branded copilots assist, themselves assist Microsoft-Copilot-branded copilots.


I just woke up, please for the love of ai slop, stop before you break my definition of the word copilot!

(Fun fact: If you repeat a word sufficiently, it will lose its meaning..)


After reading this thread, my brain is now convinced that copilots are actually some sort of small South American mammals.

I think I'll stick to that definition; I don't want to lose my mental image of the daft-looking little copilots roaming around the Inter-Andean valleys that their more menacing-looking ancestors once inhabited. Yeah, cute little things.


> (Fun fact: If you repeat a word sufficiently, it will lose its meaning..)

Too late. Microsoft already caused that to happen.


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OLED iPad dont have always on because of burn-in. Considering people certainly use it as photo frame, notification and time daahboars, kitchen recipe book, etc.

Less of a problem for iphones that unlikely to stay for a week in the same place plugged in and unused.


I don't think many people are spending $1k on an iPad Pro, the only iPad with OLED, to use as a picture frame.


They dont buy it for this purpose. Its just end up like that for a lot of people I know since it just weird device between iphone and macbook that end not being used for much.


It’s a professional mobile artist bonanza idk why you claim it isn’t used much when this expensive device is more than earning its worth

Yeah sure if you buy it as a toy it may not be used for much lol. Check your consumerism


I not saying anything about device itself.

I just pointing out how quite a big part of Apple consumer base use these devices: buy most expensive one, play with it for a few weeks and then leave it as kitchen tablet that is used ocassionally. You know every second housewife wants to be an artist but very few actually use it for this beyond first few weeks.

Providing this audience with always-on display is a sure way to have a lot of people unhappy with burned-in OLED screens.


Yeah so pretty niche use case. No need to attack others with snarky childish comments just because you dont like reality out there


First of all I love snark

Second, it is not a fault of the device that consumers are brain dead, buying something they do not need and then whine about how the device is “useless”. It sucks to suck


What advertisement?

Codeweavers is literally the company behind Wine. Without them project would never reach point where it is now.

Codeweavers developers historically been authors of 2/3 (and likely even more in past) commits in Wine.


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