I don't know how to answer your question. But. I will say that I could see a future where one has a brainstormed setting / plot outline / concept and one could have the LLM output a first draft of whatever length, then make changes / tweaks to the story / copy over time.
The hardest part of writing for me is the first draft. Editing an existing copy to my own human artistic vision is much easier. No, this character doesn't act like this, he acts like that.
Presuming you don't have an allergic reaction to AI affected writing copy (even though the publishing houses are going to outsource their copyedits and style guide edits to LLMs, that is not hard to predict), an author could have the copy start with the souless and then hand edit until they like it from there.
Then it makes the copy go into hybrid world where AI was used to be a power tool, not the entire product. Copyright law may frustrate that for a time where if say over 5% of the final copy is AI-generated, it is ineligible for copyright protections, but otherwise, there will be stories and the best stories win.
1. Hand crafted on a fountain pen through all the edits, digitized to an opendoc (ok who are we kidding, .docx but I can dream for open file formats)
2. This story was started and is digital native through scrivener / yWriter and eventually dumped to a .docx
3. This story started in an LLM chat response and edited muchly to match the artist's human vision
All 3 stories will exist. and there will be a sea of slop that used (3) and then barely edited a thing, hoping to sell a book by SEO tag manipulation and an 'eye-catching'/lurid cover, just as there is now with (2) hastily thrown together rip-offs of others text.
But you can believe that I will be glad to go all Star Trek Holodeck on my idea concepts for books and tabletop campaigns.
Computer, give me a questline for a faction called the Silver Carders, there's a catfolk named Marvin who is the adopted son of a human named Doug Alvaro and he is the old flame of the founder of the faction and there's political intrigue that X Y and Z, please find a good mix-in for these 4-7 TV tropes links I like to play with, go.
Ok now swap out the absentminded professor gadgeteer with a cloud cuckoolander grandma mechanic.
Ok now find me a few entrypoints to this faction for my party characters who are currently A, B, and C.
Oh yeah, the max context this stuff will be useful for will be great.
Can I do that now with manual digital tools? Of course. But this lessens the activation energy/boilerplate of typing this stuff up a lot.
Will long-term it make future generations unable to cope without the tool? Yes. Just like I cannot use a slide rule or do any geometry outside of my class, I have computer tools for that. LLMs will be a tool that after 20 years will be normalized enough.
Granted it will be odd when we have 3-book series come out covering a recent current events that captures the public's imagination within weeks of the event, instead of the 3-years-later that usual entertainment media like books and movies take today.
Or odd when people can pay to have their own version of the story made, either inserting characters or 'what if'ing the story where they can pay to alter a single plot point and see how the characters react and how that modifies the overall story.
We will all be more literarily conversant whether we want to or not, and I'm not sure whether I like that or I'm annoyed by it yet. Too soon to tell.
I think some abstraction will need to occur, or it's just too much information for us to ever take in and hold all at once... I think this goes past my problem of "I can't eval long outputs" and your quest of pick-and-edit style. Code assistants are in the same boat right now too.
It looks like all these knowledge fields are converging into the same problem
Not GP. I would say that her effectiveness is both in Fire and Motion [1], while one wants more Fire, before the status quo was not only no fire, but also no motion. Even the motion is a good starting point that businesses are having management adapt their strategies and plans to account for the motion, just out self-interested risk mitigation in case there is more fire than there currently is today, and that fire gets trained on them.
A good analogy, but I think you swapped the meaning of fire and motion in your usage of it.
In this case, her cases even if lost would be the equivalent of cover fire. Businesses need to re-act to the cover fire and cannot advance (perform their own motion) while she is firing.
The second part is that you would hope/expect her to be able to gain territory in the near future via the "motion" part of the strategy.
So I agree in your framing, just from my perspective you flipped the terminology.
That seems really bad for the government to be doing this. If she is losing, then using the resources of the government to harass businesses that are acting lawfully seems like fascism.
Notion is jumping the shark by moving from being a notes organization / mini database product to trying to compete with Salesforce and Hubspot. Just completely a different sector / product.
This is an issue for all the low/no code tools. Every meaningful problem has a first class SaaS product that solves it well.
Notion/Retool/Airtable/Coda/Etc are fighting over a cursed long tail and their employees are slowly going insane trying to generalize asymptotic industries. The “AI” rebranding has no doubt made them want to put a gun in their mouths.
I've been doing the sales engineer thing for a few years now. Salesforce management is a big part of my job, as this is what the salespeople use to track opportunities and deals.
The data that goes into SFDC is a big part of what gets reported on in sales/revenue forecasts, so it existing is extremely important and is a big reason why Marc Benioff has, like, a billion yachts.
At its core, SFDC is nothing more than a database and a shitload of plugins that enter stuff into that database.
Notion can, theoretically, do this as well.
Given how large the TAM is for revenue management software and how much Marc pays to acquire anything in his space, Notion chasing that market makes a lot of sense.
Often this happens when companies raising more funds when there are no funds available for that sector. Suddenly it's not cool to be a car rental company, they also need to become a logistics platform or bank.
I've wanted a distributed annotation system for a while, probably it will end up having some sort of advanced block list and follow list and follow me for my block list approach, potentially an activity pub-based system might work, but in the meantime I want to try this one because I've missed the sidewiki boat and want to try it.
Yeah definitely. Going to build out a first version of block lists / reporting this weekend. Someone else wants a firefox version too so might start there in terms of additional browser support. Thanks!
Haha that's my line! I would guess that those people who are already on the seafood website know other technical people in their day-to-day workspaces like silicon valley or Palo Alto or wherever, so it's easy for them to get a link. Meanwhile for those of us on the opposite side of the US or, barely in the Anglo-Sphere at all, we are on the outside looking in and are not likely to get a link just by being mostly lurkers and occasional contributors.
At least for me, I'm the only HN user I know except my dad who doesn't even post, he just got lurk links from his knee if the woods like hackaday.
It seems like maybe, just maybe, Italy is willing to keep passing laws to clamp down on internet piracy, how much damage can the internet route around before it is too much?
Thanks! Yeah a tool like that is similar to what I'm after. As far as mermaid goes, it lets you specify the direction of how the node layout is created, but does not allow you to specify one node will always be a cardinal direction relative to another node.
I just found this random little site, a small forum on a site apparently geared towards the mobile browsers inside Nintendo handheld consoles such as the DSi and 3DS.
I think it's adorable and I'm considering joining up.
Yeah you used to be able to get nerd street cred as an OSS maintainer, and the cost was your time and willingness to work on A) the code and B) whatever contribution processes you/others came up with. The downsides were known.
Now, you have this yawning chasm opening of large companies taking your work and selling it back to you, or LLMs remixing your work and diffusing it out, both demotivating factors that combined with the economic insecurity and COVID lockdowns forcing people to re-evaluate their hobby priorities, I'm not surprised there's less maintainers.
The hardest part of writing for me is the first draft. Editing an existing copy to my own human artistic vision is much easier. No, this character doesn't act like this, he acts like that.
Presuming you don't have an allergic reaction to AI affected writing copy (even though the publishing houses are going to outsource their copyedits and style guide edits to LLMs, that is not hard to predict), an author could have the copy start with the souless and then hand edit until they like it from there.
Then it makes the copy go into hybrid world where AI was used to be a power tool, not the entire product. Copyright law may frustrate that for a time where if say over 5% of the final copy is AI-generated, it is ineligible for copyright protections, but otherwise, there will be stories and the best stories win.
1. Hand crafted on a fountain pen through all the edits, digitized to an opendoc (ok who are we kidding, .docx but I can dream for open file formats)
2. This story was started and is digital native through scrivener / yWriter and eventually dumped to a .docx
3. This story started in an LLM chat response and edited muchly to match the artist's human vision
All 3 stories will exist. and there will be a sea of slop that used (3) and then barely edited a thing, hoping to sell a book by SEO tag manipulation and an 'eye-catching'/lurid cover, just as there is now with (2) hastily thrown together rip-offs of others text.
But you can believe that I will be glad to go all Star Trek Holodeck on my idea concepts for books and tabletop campaigns.
Computer, give me a questline for a faction called the Silver Carders, there's a catfolk named Marvin who is the adopted son of a human named Doug Alvaro and he is the old flame of the founder of the faction and there's political intrigue that X Y and Z, please find a good mix-in for these 4-7 TV tropes links I like to play with, go.
Ok now swap out the absentminded professor gadgeteer with a cloud cuckoolander grandma mechanic.
Ok now find me a few entrypoints to this faction for my party characters who are currently A, B, and C.
Oh yeah, the max context this stuff will be useful for will be great.
Can I do that now with manual digital tools? Of course. But this lessens the activation energy/boilerplate of typing this stuff up a lot.
Will long-term it make future generations unable to cope without the tool? Yes. Just like I cannot use a slide rule or do any geometry outside of my class, I have computer tools for that. LLMs will be a tool that after 20 years will be normalized enough.
Granted it will be odd when we have 3-book series come out covering a recent current events that captures the public's imagination within weeks of the event, instead of the 3-years-later that usual entertainment media like books and movies take today.
Or odd when people can pay to have their own version of the story made, either inserting characters or 'what if'ing the story where they can pay to alter a single plot point and see how the characters react and how that modifies the overall story.
We will all be more literarily conversant whether we want to or not, and I'm not sure whether I like that or I'm annoyed by it yet. Too soon to tell.
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