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It’s like being outraged and asking “Trek and Cannondale exist, why do we need fifty other bike makers?” When some new manufacturers pop up.

I don’t get the negativity.


How often you drive 200mph??


I think it's more common to convert distances.

I consider any distance reachable with one tank of gas commonly used (so up to 400 miles).


This happens too often for it to just not be on purpose.


Nope.

I get it, it's Apple and it's great and all that.

I'm just not going to wear that on my face.

I'm not.


Shareholders.


We did a several thousand mile road trip a couple years ago. We planned it out using various online tools and pen and paper. Will have to look into doing something like this the next time.

The kiddos got to see a LOT of really cool things. They had a blast.


>More code != better.

>more concise ways to render the logic

This isn't better either.

Edit before the shitstorm:

This isn't necessarily better either.


When I'm looking at code, I don't want to read War and Peace.

But I also don't want to read Haiku either. All the burden is on the reader, and there are many readers.

Usually what I want is a short story. Long enough to be accurate, short enough to lose distracting and unnecessary information.


> I feel like our country is extremely unprepared for what climate change is going to mean for everyone in a decade or two.

The general populace is definitely unprepared. Those with means know what is coming and they're "getting mine while the getting is good" before it all goes to shit. Which, of course, means making things worse.


> Most watch users don’t know how to change the strap and I bet pre-Apple Watch, many didn’t realize that was an option

Hmmm... what's this little springy thing on my Garmin watch? Oh! check that out! I can replace the bands!

Apple makes cool stuff, I even have some of it, but stop suckin' their butts.


The Garmins I've had before the Apple Watch was first released involved getting out an Allen/Torx wrench to change the band. It wasn't until after the Apple Watch came out that I noticed Garmin had quick-release bands. So, though there were arguably quick-release bands before the Apple Watch, you picked a poor example.


> Reddit has one credible third-party client: Apollo.

Ooof. I mean, if you're only an iOS user, maybe?


On iOS Apollo and Narwhal were both good options last I tried them. Android has a lot more going on. All of Infinity, Joey, Sync (my choice), RiF, Boost and Now are pretty solid. Pretty reductive indeed to say Apollo is the only serious contenter...


Here's the difference. Apollo has arguably more user value than Reddit itself. I wish Apollo worked as a client for HN, for example. It could easily be plugged into any similar platform and still be one of the best mobile apps ever built.

The others are just a-dime-a-dozen Reddit clients.


I've used Apollo when I was on iOS. It's indeed great.

But holy hell, you must have spent exactly 0 time with Android clients, or just don't enjoy Android apps in general, cause I'd easily put Sync and Boost on equal footing as Apollo. Infinity is extremely solid as well.


Speak for yourself. I would pay for RiF to add HN support, while I couldn't care less about other clients, including Apollo.


RiF is probably the only reason I used Reddit for as long as I did. Excellent interface, really solid client. I even paid the premium just to show my appreciation.

My hatred for Reddit the platform only grew as time passed, to a point where I mostly dropped the site from my browsing habits a couple of years ago. I hope the recent changes bring an end to Reddit, the world will be better without it.

But my hatred for Reddit does not extend to RiF, much to the opposite. I hope whatever Reddit replacement spawns in the future has a RiF for it.


Understandable, given you’re probably on Android.

I took another look at RIF just in case my memory of it was out of date and the difference in quality between it and Apollo is massive. I’m doubling down on my original comment: Apollo is a truly special app and RIF (and likely others) are very generic clients.


I am an Android user so I don't know Apollo but I too am a huge RIF fan -- it's the only way I consume Reddit. I also agree with GP statement, I wish I could use the RIF app as a HN reader.

What makes Apollo a "truly special app?" in your opinion?


The TL;DR is that it's so good, it increased my time on Reddit by 10x or more versus using the website. I had to delete it because it was such a joy to use, it's all I wanted to spend my free time on.

More specifically, just a few things: 1) lovely UI design with proper adherence to iOS human interface guidelines, 2) useful customization, 3) flawless performance throughout, 4) gesture support which translates into being able to sift through a lot of content and conversations, 5) complex native (performant!) in-app support for many media types hosted on all types of 3rd party sites, 6) and just all around thoughtful and thorough support for the entire Reddit platform and its features.

All of this executed extremely well by just one person. Frankly, an inspiration and should be championed here.


Not to dunk on Apollo since it is excellent on iOS, but Boost on Android has all those things. It also has a tablet UI, moderator support, and a "gallery" masonry view that is a joy to use. Last I checked, Apollo has neither an iPad UI nor a masonry post view.

(I have also deleted Boost many times to control my usage.)


AFAIK, Apollo also has extensive moderator support (I'm not a mod so I can't speak to it but fairly confident it exists) but yeah, no iPad support which really sucks.

I took a look at Boost and it's really nice! Looks extremely similar to Apollo to the point that I think they may have just duplicated the Apollo app on Android and this is not a bad thing at all. I was considering doing the same for HN.


And there's even Narwhal on iOS that's totally viable and fine. That's insane hyperbole.


I stopped using narwhal because it doesn't have good "drafts" support. At the time, I was writing a lot of thoughtful, heavily revised comments and posts.


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