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My high school blocked websites with a proxy set in IE. To bypass this we would install Firefox on a flash drive and run Firefox from it. When Chrome came out everybody switched instantly because it worked so much better for our use case. Maybe a regularly installed Firefox could have been competitive, but my first use of Chrome was a night and day difference compared with Firefox.

It is not based on race, but nationality. If you are an Indian but are a citizen of Singapore your quota will be based on Singapore quotas, not based on you being ethnically an Indian.

It's actually based on country of birth. If your parents were French but were living in India when you where born, you will be in the India quota, even if your nationality is French.

Well they do depending on which country they are citizen of and where they are working.

The UK is considered non-EU so there would need to be a visa for a Brit working in the EU.


A nitpick here, but "visa" gets tossed around a lot. A visa is a document which allows you to request permission to enter a country for some purpose. To work in a country you need a work and/or residency permit. Even in the US, there are situations where you can work with a an expired visa, provided your other immigration documents are current. But if you leave, you need a new one. Similarly UK citizens can still work in some European countries without a visa, because there is no requirement for them to enter with one (but the officer at the border might still refuse entry).

You can be grandfathered in, but since this was about somebody returning to Europe, it likely doesn't apply to them

Again, depends on the country. Switzerland (which I appreciate is not in the EU) does not require visas for many "friendly" 3rd countries even if the person is coming to work.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home/publiservice/weisungen-...


Since the word used was "returning", that would mean that they go back to where they came from, where they are citizens.

The majority of the voters was on his side. 52.24% voted yes and there was a 79.42% voter turn out. A huge number of Californians agreed with him at the time. This is quite a bit different than segregation today since acceptance of gay marriage was quite a bit lower and it was a newer issue than segregation.


Racial integration was wildly unpopular in the south when it became a hot political issue of the day, yet that fact doesn't make the opposition to it any more palatable to modern sensibilities. The only point I was trying to make was that you can't hand-wave away something you don't want to pick a side on by saying it's just a political view when a large portion of the society you exist in see it as a civil rights issue.

Well, I guess that too has its caveats. Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama were both vocally against same-sex marriage during run up to the 2008 election, I believe roughly the same time that the Prop 8 fight was happening. They didn't switch sides until public opinion started swaying in favor of it and I've never seen anyone hold their feet to the fire or call them "absolute scumbags" over it. Well, no one that wasn't already calling them that at least.


> Don't whitewash this shit. You know full well what we're talking about is specifically going to a place that you know you're not allowed to be in, doing a protest you're not allowed to do. Playing with the line is still taking the piss and the UK believe in the spirit of the law to avoid all this mucking about with the specification. Otherwise I can block traffic all day and make up some bullshit excuse as to how I'm somehow innocent. These are feeble excuses that Palestine in Action would be proud of.

I don't think you know what happened. At least one case was a person standing quietly outside on a public sidewalk while not impeding traffic or people walking.

At best you can say it is loitering.


within the range of an abortion clinic. The UK has the spirit of the law. We don't tolerate people dicking about with the definition.

Isabel Vaughan-Spruce is the campaign director of 40 Days for Life Birmingham, which organises prayer vigils near abortion clinics, and a leader of March for Life UK.

She wasn't just "standing and praying". There's significant context.


First, she was not, at the time of arrest, holding a prayer vigil. She was by herself.

Second, if it was a legitimate arrest why was she was paid out by the government for a settlement?

Also, this has happened to multiple people who haven't organized prayer vigils in the past, not that it would matter if they had.


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She was literally campaigning against abortion near an abortion clinic which she knows is against the law. Criminals who have self-respect don't fucking live-stream their crimes and then act like a victim when they get arrested.

Its not a thought crime, its a crime crime.


I don't care if it is against the law. The conversation was about free speech. I'll even give you that she was protesting. All that does is proves my point. If you are not allowed to protest quietly while not impeding anybody then you do not have free speech.

Second, it clearly wasn't against the law because they dropped the charges and gave her a settlement.

Third, just because something is against the law doesn't mean that you shouldn't have the right to say it. The law does not dictate morality.

If the parliament passed a law saying you cannot criticize them, would you say well it is the law and as such it isn't a violation of free speech? Would you call somebody doing that a criminal?

Fourth, the police literally said "You’ve said you’ve been engaging in prayer, which is the offense.". Meaning the offense was literally her thinking. If you are not allowed to have wrong think then there is clearly thought crimes.


She has free speech. If she wants to write an article, post a comment, write to her mp, she runs a few campaign groups, she can organise a march, she can talk freely about her opinion. Nobody stops her doing those things, she has free speech. What she doesn't have is the right to harass people who are trying to get an abortion. She has an effective restraining order from abortion clinics that she is violating as part of her campaigning.

Why don't you see the difference between free speech and harassment? Your stance undermines free speech by giving it zero responsibility. These are rights hard won by our ancestors and you cheapen them by pretending they're all about some cheap technicality that permits toxic groups to intimidate other people.


I don't think you are listening to yourself. You are literally saying that standing on the side of the road quietly and not impeding anybody is harassment.

If you think that is harassment then this is hopeless. Have a good day.


she effectively has a restraining order from abortion clinics that she's violating.


It is not like their HQ is in China. They chose to enter the Chinese market.


Every iPhone sold everywhere is manufactured in China. They make 34,000 iOS devices every hour, 24/7. That’s not possible anywhere else.

Apple is, from a purely practical standpoint, more a Chinese operation than an American one.


They could manufacture them in China, but not sell the phones there?


China is their second biggest market, I believe.

Additionally, the humans who make all of the iPhones and iPads are Chinese people, subject to Chinese law. Apple has to do exactly what the CCP wants, at least for now. They are desperately trying to ramp up phone production in India, but there is huge expertise at Foxconn that isn’t in India as yet.


If Apple did not sell iPhones to Chinese consumers the Chinese government wouldn't make Apple provide a different icloud. They made that choice, not by manufacturing in China, but by selling there.


Many crimes are committed by repeat offenders so it would eliminate a decent chunk of crime. Over 60% of violent criminals in the US get rearrested for another crime. Almost 40% of nonviolent criminals get rearrested for another crime.

If they stop committing crimes either because they are still in jail or dead, the crime rate would absolutely drop.

https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/recidivism-am...


That is very interesting and I have to think some more about it. Thank you.


I just don't get people saying how terrible climate change is going to be for the world and then refuses to support nuclear.

If climate change is such a critical problem, then let's try everything to get this solved even if it costs more to do it. If you are only willing to do some solutions because it is cheaper then I don't believe you when you say it is important to solve.

And frankly, we don't know the full impact of climate change, so having as many alternatives as possible just makes sense. Hydro can be impacted by droughts which will be more common. Solar may be impacted if there are increased storms. Wind may be impacted due to stilling (slowing of wind due to an increase in co2).

Why not throw nuclear into the mix to ensure we do not run out of power?


> Hydro can be impacted by droughts which will be more common

You did read the news this summer? Like https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/03/europe/hungary-nuclear-pl... ?

Most of the environmentalists will tell you that it's dumb to shut down nuclear, but building new plants just takes too long and is too expensive. Why then not just put the money into things that are cheap now and will get even cheaper tomorrow?

Hedging against downtime is comparatively easy, just diversify by location and improve the grid, which is way less expensive than building out power plants.


Every source of power has pros and cons. They all have risks and benefits.

If there is a push to do a specific clean energy I think we should go for it regardless of the cost. If you think the climate issue is going to be a very severe issue then you should take every option at our disposal and encourage every push for an alternative to fossil fuels. Since you are refusing this, then I assume you don't think it is severe.

Large countries may be able to hedge against downtime, but smaller countries can't. Also, like I said, we don't really know the impact of all of this which is why we should diversify as much as possible. One of those diversifications should be nuclear as well as solar, wind, and hydro.


It's simple: They're based on emotion and/or social consensus (i.e. express the opinion seen as OK to express)


HN is full of solar salesman.


Because having a solution would put the climate change organisations out of a job.


Many countries do not have the raw materials to build solar, wind turbines, and batteries so it doesn't solve the sovereignty issue.


Once you have a solar panel you can't be cut off from using it. It's not like oil where you need regular deliveries forever.


Sure, but when your existing ones break or you need more you can have issues.


> when your existing ones break

They last 25 years. Enough time to spin up domestic manufacturing if you're really paranoid.

> or you need more

Lots of countries manufacture them today.


I'm not talking about manufacturing. I am talking about raw materials for chips, battery cells, etc. You can't be sovereign if you have the capability to build something but don't have the resources to build it


If your electricity usage isn't growing like crazy, existing batteries can simply be recycled to make new ones.

What chips are you talking about?

Again, by your definition, almost no country is "sovereign" for anything. Not fossil fuels, not PV and renewables, and certainly not nuclear. It's an impossible standard but only renewables get held to it.


> What chips are you talking about?

Electronic chips in wind turbines, hydro stations, etc.. Believe it or not but all of these use chips...

> Again, by your definition, almost no country is "sovereign" for anything. Not fossil fuels, not PV and renewables, and certainly not nuclear. It's an impossible standard but only renewables get held to it.

I am not holding renewables to it. The person I was responding to made the erroneous claim that you would be sovereign with renewables. "Renewables are cheap now and they also solve the sovereignty issue." I am just pointing out that most countries wouldn't actually have sovereignty and would still be reliant on other countries.

I am the one holding the consistent standard since I believe most countries wouldn't be sovereign regardless of them using fossil fuels, nuclear, solar, wind, etc.


No one meets the ImJamal Standard of Sovereignty. It's completely useless.

Might as well go with the source of energy that pollutes the least and allows you to be import-free for the longest amount of time - solar, wind, and batteries.


The US, Canada, Russia and many other countries could be sovereign with oil and coal.

China, Brazil, Russia and other countries have a lot of rare earth minerals to build electronics for turbines and other sources of power.

Australia, Canada, Russia and other countries have a decent amount of uranium.

So, yes, some countries meet the definition of energy sovereignty.


So you think oil and coal doesn't use electronics?

They use exactly the same stuff. Nearly all power generation is just spinning magnets, obvious exception is PV. There are no particular electronic components you need for wind turbines that you don't also need for a coal or gas fired power plant. Everything uses electronic control systems.

Why do you people argue so incessantly when you clearly don't know what you're talking about?


We had electricity from coal and oil prior to electronics... Or do you think we had electronics in 1900?

Why do you people argue so incessantly when you clearly don't know what you're talking about?


We did have electronics in 1900: Kirchoff's circuit laws date from 1845, the first semiconductor device (crystal detector) is from 1874 and the first vacuum tube is from 1904. What we didn't have is transistors and the miniaturization technology that gave us integrated circuits and microprocessors.


The conversation was clearly about more modern electronics since I was talking about rare earth minerals which were not used in the devices you are talking about.

You are able to drill and burn oil along with transmit the electricity without technology that requires rare earth minerals which are the electronics I was referring to.


You were able to drill and burn oil without modern technology. These days, pretty much all those easily accessible wells are drained and the only oil left is in harder to access wells that you'd never even find without modern technology. That's why we're fracking and messing around with oil sands and building offshore oil rigs etc.

We also had windmills long before we had electricity. And the west has plenty of rare earth deposits, despite the name they're not actually that rare. They're just expensive to refine and the refinement process causes a lot of pollution. China does it cheaper, polluting itself in the process and that's why we don't do it. If they were to stop giving us access to these minerals we could restart our own production. It's not just used for electronics by the way, it's also used for magnets which are a key component in electric motors/generators, so without rare earth minerals you're not generating electricity regardless of having oil.

This whole argument of yours is asinine.


If you think all those countries are ImJamal Sovereign you don't know what you're talking about.


I'm not saying they are currently sovereign, only that they could be if necessary.


You als can't be cut if you stockpile uranium for a decade or 2


That's like saying oil-producing countries aren't sovereign unless they also manufacture oil drills and pumps and pipes and tanks.

The sun is an oil well. Panels are drills or pumps. Batteries are oil tanks.

Not having oil drill and oil tank factories in your country isn't a critical energy sovereignty issue.


They don't need to make things themselves, they just need to have the capability to make it themselves to be sovereign.

If you get cut off from global oil trade while having oil in the ground but no ability to make drills, what use is the oil? If you want sovereignty then it is critical to have the ability to make drills, tankers, etc in your country if you rely on oil.

This is no different than solar panels, wind turbines, batteries, etc when it comes to renewables. If you don't care about sovereignty then great, you are good to go. If you do, then you need to be able to handle everything yourself otherwise you are always going to be reliant on other countries.


> If you get cut off from global oil trade while having oil in the ground but no ability to make drills, what use is the oil?

Your existing drills and pumps might work long enough for you to stand up a domestic drill manufacturing industry.

Same for solar, except that panels and batteries operate for way longer than drills and pumps.

> If you don't care about sovereignty then great, you are good to go

If no one is sovereign then sovereignty is meaningless. Who cares.


> Your existing drills and pumps might work long enough for you to stand up a domestic drill manufacturing industry.

> Same for solar, except that panels and batteries operate for way longer than drills and pumps.

This is not about factories, but raw material as I said in a previous comment that you responded to. Most countries don't have uranium. A lot of countries do not have rare earth minerals for electronic chips.

> If no one is sovereign then sovereignty is meaningless. Who cares

The person I was originally responding to did and was claiming that you could achieve sovereignty with renewables.


An awful lot more countries in the world have the potential to sovereign manufacture relatively simple renewables than the massive engineering in reactors


I am not talking about manufacturing but the resources necessary to build them.


But they have the resources to build nuke plants?

I don’t understand the point


Nuclear requires the least amount of mining and materials vs alternatives https://ourworldindata.org/low-carbon-technologies-need-far-... So in both cases the argument makes little sense


The person I was responding to made the claim that renewables makes a country sovereign. I am saying it doesn't and it seems like you agree so I don't understand your point.

I never made the claim that nuclear would make a country sovereign. Only a small number of countries could have sovereignty with nuclear.


The definition of native is "Being such by birth or origin.". This means that everybody born in the US are native Americans.


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