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Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41031942, which has the article this one is lifted from.

Submitters: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

(I know the bloomberg.com article is paywalled, which sucks, but since there are workarounds, it's allowed - see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html about that)

What would be a clearer title?

Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41033005, which was posted earlier

Please don't do this here.

"Don't be snarky."

"Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that.""


FWIW pg's twitter feed has been strongly anti-trump for a good 9 years now, so I don't think that post is telegraphing any political alignment. (To my eye it's about resisting ideological pressure regardless of political affiliation but that's just my take.)

Users flagged it. We can only guess why users flag things, but in this case I've turned the flags off - see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... for how we approach that sort of thing.

As for your question: I'm not privy to insider discussions but have been around YC a lot and can tell you I've never heard anything of this nature. From my perspective YC is focused on finding good founders and that's about it. Just speaking for myself here though.

Recent and related:

A brief interview with Tcl creator John Ousterhout (2023) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41017367 - July 2024 (56 comments)

Previous discussions of current submission:

Why you should not use Tcl (1994) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14944103 - Aug 2017 (52 comments)

Why you should not use Tcl (1994, "The Tcl War") - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7071479 - Jan 2014 (1 comment)


A brief interview with Tcl creator John Ousterhout - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34733120 - Feb 2023 (92 comments)

Maybe not, but please don't take HN threads on generic ideological tangents.


Ah thanks. I've made the title questionable now.

Related ongoing megathread:

CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002195 - July 2024 (3590 comments)

Related ongoing megathread:

CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002195 - July 2024 (3590 comments)

Related ongoing thread:

CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002195 - July 2024 (3590 comments)

No worries! I changed the title to "Tell HN" above.

All: there are over 3000 comments in this thread. If you want to read them all, click More at the bottom of each page, or like this:



https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002195&p=4 (...etc.)

I changed the URL from https://mastodon.social/@netblocks/112808500770031751 after getting this email from a user:

If you figure the event is significant enough to be on the front page, isn't something about the event itself more appropriate? as opposed to a tweet about the network being down as stand-in

That seems like a good point. I hope it doesn't context-shift the comments too much (I'm in a meeting atm and don't have time to check.)

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It's probably best to follow the HN guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) and use the original title. I've done that now. (The submitted title, for those who like to keep track, was "Deutsche Telekom issued invalid certificates, hasn't revoked them since 6 months".)

It's certainly fine to share what you think is important about an article, but the best way to do that is by adding a comment to the thread.

(I've detached this offtopic subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002977.)

Your original comment was https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41007985. I detached it from its original parent (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002977) because it was more of a generic tangent than a specific reply.

It's a vital moderation function to do this, particularly when the parent is the top comment of the entire thread. Those tend to attract non-reply-replies, and that has bad effects on the thread as a whole. It causes the top part of the page to fill up with generic rather than specific content, and it makes the top subthread too top-heavy.

I'm not saying that you did anything wrong or that your post was bad or that it was unrelated to the original parent. The problem is that the effects I'm describing pile up unintentionally and end up being a systemic problem. It isn't anybody's fault, but there does need to be someone whose job it is to watch out for the system as a whole, and that's basically what moderators do.

Sometimes we comment that we detached a post from its original parent (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...) and sometimes not. (Perhaps the software should display this information automatically.) I'm less likely to do it when a comment stands on its own just fine, which was the case with your post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41007985 and which is usually the case with the more generic sort of reply—in fact it's one test for deciding that question.

> so now there is the whole other pointless branch polluting the relevance of the tree

Yes, please don't do that—especially in the top subthread. I understand the frustration of "WTF where did my comment go", but you can always reach us at hn@ycombinator.com and get an answer.

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."



Please don't cross into the flamewar style in HN comments. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41007791.

Thanks! I've switched the URL above to your second link (instead of the absurdly baity https://www.sciencealert.com/earths-water-is-rapidly-losing-...).

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41000880.

(Not sure if this is what you mean, but) Blocking paywalls wouldn't make HN better. It would make it much worse, because it would exclude many good articles. That's why the rule is to allow paywalls that have workarounds, i.e. that the community can still read.

If anyone has a suggestion that would actually make the situation better, I'd love to hear it, because the current situation sucks, and has sucked for at least 10 years. It just sucks less than the alternatives we know of.

It's against the site guidelines to post like this, and we have to ban accounts that to it repeatedly, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

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