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I read this and this that it's a lot closer to what RSS intends to solve, especially the read-only streams. Two-way streams is mainly providing a method to post back into that feed. It's a little more real time (rss feeds are typically cached and refreshed), and a real-time implementation would e more of an collection of entries that are pushed to the server presenting the stream and ultimately to the client.

What I think With that in mind, I feel this concept is very close to a lot of the p2p or decentralized content distribution systems being tested out these days, like aether[1] or matrix.org[2].

The backend implementation that matrix.org uses is rather ideal. It's Federated JSON over HTTP(S). The clients out today are heavily focused on chat, but it is data agnostic. You could have client that writes rich media content and a client that displays this as a blog. Going back to the streams concept, you could have a client subscribed to multiple streams (rooms in matrix vernacular) and as people post their messages - rich media or simple "how are you" comments, it would get federated out to each home server, which can present a web client interface like in tonsky's mock-ups.

For the concept of amazon providing sensitive order information as a stream/matrix room, there would have to be an add-on concept built into the client of some sort of security token. I'm not talking about a losable gpg keypair, but something amazon generates and provides to you (like they do with their AWS services already) Amazon would then create a personalized stream for you, using that security token to encrypt. Since amazon provides the content and the key, they can replace your key at any time.

[1]: http://getaether.net/ [2]: http://www.matrix.org/

The problem I have with all of this is it seems like the XKCD where for some reason, the latest person / thing seems to somehow not think to google if there's anything like what they're doing, so we have yet another program / protocol / community that 5 people use and then dies. EVERYONE uses E-mail.

And now with Aether - has no one heard of freenet and i2p and Tor? No, we'll re-do all the sort of starting work on anonymity and security and get to re-make for the thousandth time the mistakes where it really isn't that secure or anonymous rather than building on anything that has at least some of the actual battle testing and bug squashing already done.

What is Aether but Frost with less testing? Hell, what is it but TOR access to Usenet? Maybe I don't understand what's so special that it can't use any of the long worked on infrastructure level work that's gone into the above projects for a decade or so, and it actually does make sense to start over from day one - but if so, they certainly don't explain it.

And I'm not talking about UI - I'm talking about the anonymity equivalent of deciding TCP isn't good enough so I'm going to re-invent IPX or something.

is there anyone doing an Aether-equivalent over I2P or Freenet yet?

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