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> EDIT: There's a reason Soylent is vegan; not to appease animal lovers, but because its healthier for you.

More likely, it's because it's easier to utilize without spoilage.

Also, the cancers you refer to are not specific to meat, they're specific to cooked (moreso charred) food.

Milk and eggs provide a complete protein that's hard to find elsewhere without doing a lot of pairing.

That said, the "emaciated" point is probably moreso about the "low fat" part of the comment. Fat is critical for hormone production among other things, and it would be very hard to be a "powerlifter deadlifting hundreds of lbs" without adequate fat intake. More importantly, saturated fat (and specifically dietary cholesterol, the kind found only in meat and dairy) is particularly well utilized for hormone production.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6538617




Meat is always cooked and often charred. Non-meat is not so that way.


> Meat is always cooked

No, its not. Raw preparations of meat are a thing.


Charred is incorrect preparation. Food should be prepared in such a way that all parasites and pathogens are killed. In foods where it is possible, some Maillard reaction products are desirable. But you should not ever be burning your food if you can help it.

You could get by with just Pasteurizing all your food (or cooking sous vide), but any meat or fish you will probably want to sear for about 3 minutes per side before eating, because it just tastes better that way. The mutagenic products of the Maillard reaction are far more dangerous to bacteria than to mammals.


I could quibble with aspects of this, but my point remains - it's not the meat that is associated with cancer, it's the preparation.


Red meat is and has been associated with cancer for decades, they've recently found the causative link and it has nothing to do with the preparation: blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2015/01/02/red-meat-cancer-immune/#.VYBs8mWCOnM


If you read that and concluded they've found the causative link between red meat and cancer I'd implore you to read more about it.


My original statement was inadvertently strong, they've found a causative link between red meat and cancer.. not necessarily the link that explains 100% of the association or anything of the sort, but a link that's universal across red meat, is dose dependent, and is readily repeatable.

It really is a landmark study: http://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/Pages/2014-12-29-sugar-...


The fat intake you allude to is entirely possible on a vegan diet. Saturated fats are exactly the fats you should not be eating.

"Saturated fats are linked to increases in low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, which is positively associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disease. Specifically, saturated fats have been shown to block the expression of LDL receptors[3], which ultimately prevents this unhealthy type of cholesterol from being filtered out of the bloodstream."

https://faq.soylent.com/hc/en-us/articles/203798419-1-5-Macr...


> Saturated fats are exactly the fats you should not be eating.

Wide swath generalization at best, categorically untrue at worst. Keep in mind - if nothing else - there are a lot of very different and unique saturated fats.

A 2014 systematic review looking at observational studies of dietary intake of fatty acids, observational studies of measured fatty acid levels in the blood, and intervention studies of polyunsaturated fat supplementation concludes that the finding ″do not support cardiovascular guidelines that promote high consumption of long-chain omega-3 and omega-6 and polyunsaturated fatty acids and suggest reduced consumption of total saturated fatty acids.″"

http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638

Conclusion: Current evidence does not clearly support cardiovascular guidelines that encourage high consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids and low consumption of total saturated fats.


I think that view of saturated fats is falling out of favour.




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