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Join the Dropbox Notes beta (dropbox.com)
88 points by flyt on April 23, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 33 comments

I read "Dropbox Notes" and instantly thought "awesome! I can finally ditch Evernote". Then I open the link and they talk about "a new way for teams to write together". Firstly, can we please focus on the consumer? Secondly, can we please focus on the UI? Thirdly, I'd just like a github-style UI for personal note taking that is consistent across my browser, phone, tablet and computers. That would be great; introduce language highlighting and it'd be awesome. I'd pay more than my Dropbox fee for that.

Why not use Google Keep?

I can only answer for myself here, but the reason I choose Evernote over GKeep is:

Evernote is a company making money with their core product — which happens to be Evernote, the note taking service. I pay for Premium because it's a great service that works well for me, and the money I spend on them helps keeping the company afloat.

Google Keep is a product that's not making any money. It's an experiment for Google, the same way Google Wave was. I can't pay for it. While I honestly admire their willingness to ditch experiments that aren't fruitful, it also doesn't make me want to start relying on it because it might be taken out behind the shed in 6 months time.

Well, that and the fact that the Evernote ecosystem is _huge_ — a big plus.

It is a shame Evernote does not support free OS-es.

In summary: (1) I dislike the UI, (2) I dislike Google apps on iOS devices, (3) it's Google, so it could be shut down at any moment and (4) my general dislike for moving all of my tech habits to Google services.

Also, I agree with czottmann that it isn't Google's core business or competency and thus I would rather go elsewhere.

A crude version of what you might be looking for is available on cloud-notes.info

This was an MVP I threw together which I've been using ever since- to be honest the interface needs a bit of work but solves the problem for me.

Syntax highlighting shouldn't be a big issue to add.

Note the iOS app isn't currently on the app store, but contact me if you want to test that as well. (email in profile)

Folders, attachments and the Webclipper..

I hope they do something more innovative than the other guys. Like bringing this collaborative notes feature onto the desktop vs another browser based notes sharing site.

I use Dropbox on my computer as thought it's native to my OS.

When I open a browser then I go into the other world (the internet) where I have many choices. Keeping it tightly integrated with my OS would give Dropbox an advantage over the other guy that chose the easy way out.

I've been using this in beta since early march, if anyone has any specific questions I'm happy to field them.

Personal findings so far:

- Keyboard shortcuts are unparalleled compared to any other note taking app I've used (both desktop & web). Not needing to use a mouse to move around chunks of notes is highly productive.

- Safari seems to lose sync more often than Chrome.

- The design is really, really white. It took me a few days for it to stop hurting my eyes after tabbing to it from my IDE.

I have been working on my own note taking app: Here is a list to my shortcuts and they are quite similar!


What keyboard shortcuts does it have?

Full list here (on OS X): http://i.imgur.com/pdbHhZx.jpg

Of particular note is the ability to move around lines of highlighted text using option + keyboard arrows.

At first I thought it was just a neat feature, but now I pull my hair out every time I use a text editor without it.

Doesn't OneNote have its fair share of keyboard shortcuts?


Quite the list! To clarify on my parent comment - by unparalleled I mean in usefulness for writing notes, spec and lists of actionable items for teams. Not just sheer quantity of shortcuts.

Here we like hip things. Why use onenote for notetaking and outlook for task management when there are a million cool new APPS and STARTUPS out there?

Do you think Notes will make for a good task management application? Does it have to-do lists and commenting?

Yes. On our team of 5 devs we actually stopped using trello in favour of it.

The ability to tersely create checkboxes by simply typing square brackets [ ] and a few other neat formatting tricks proved to be the path to least resistance for us when planning and organising sprints.

We find we spend less time managing a project management system, less time creating lists of actionable items and more time to actually get stuff done. YMMV with bigger teams, though.

Is this basically a newer version of Hackpad? (I believe Dropbox acquired them)

Looks like it. And Hackpad is now open source: https://github.com/hackpad

edit: Looks like it's not quite there yet, but soon! https://twitter.com/bryanlanders/status/586235797571002368/p...

How an empty repo can have 100+ stars? https://github.com/hackpad/hackpad

I was in on the beta for this and I just couldn't figure out what to use it for. We use Google Docs, Trello, Confluence and Basecamp. I can't see where it fits with any of those. Interested to see where this goes.

Awesome, been looking for a drive replacement for writing short documents.

I really hope I'll be able to throw out my Simplenote with this :)

This is something cool which I been hoping for.

The name is not very creative since Box came up with Box notes a while ago. Not sure why they didn't try a different name instead.

Seems like a weak attempt to compete with Google Drive.

Comparing to Google Docs isn't the point. (Although it would be good if it compares well.) This is really aimed at people who have already integrated Dropbox into their workflow -- enterprise customers, mostly.

Unless notes sits on your OS and doesn't require you to boot up your browser and log into Dropbox then, yes they are competing with google docs. I work with an organization that has dropbox set up for around 140 employees and most of them don't use it beyond the desktop integration, why would they?

In my experience, the most common way to share files is by creating sharable links at dropbox.com. In fact I think that might be the ONLY way that I'm aware of.

You can share entire directories, like a network drive.

True. I did find it odd how closely the screenshot resembles Google Docs though. Granted there's not a lot of UI there to compare against, but given that it seems to be the only hint at what Notes actually is, I expected a bit more.

Yep, they can compete on convenience in this regard. I can't imagine they'll work to introduce a full Microsoft Office competitor like Google has done with Drive, but if it works fluidly with the seemingly ubiquitous Dropbox client and web browsers I could see it succeeding.

Didn't Dropbox partner with Microsoft to offer Office Web app capabilities?

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