Free – Experiment in your own dev or demo app with a web and a worker dyno for free. Sleeps after 1 hr of inactivity. Active up to 12 hours a day. No custom domains. 512 MB RAM.
Hobby – Run a small app 24×7 with the Heroku developer experience for $7/dyno/mo. Custom domains. Run a maximum of one dyno per Procfile entry. 512 MB RAM.
Standard 1X, 2X: Build production apps of any size or complexity. Run multiple dynos per Procfile entry to scale out. App metrics, faster builds and preboot. All Hobby features. 512MB or 1GB RAM. $25 or $50/dyno/mo.
Performance – Isolated dynos for your large-scale, high-performance apps. All Standard features. Compose your app with performance and standard dynos. 6GB RAM. $500/dyno/mo.
edit: I read TFL, no more free tier with a cron job hitting it hourly to keep it awake 24/7. Can't say I'm surprised.
I don't know why you'd want to point your domain to an app that's only up half the time anyways, so I don't think this is a big deal.
Domain redirects are useful for portfolio apps if you'd like to have some coherency in your urls, and maybe you're not trying to showcase that your app is on Heroku's free tier at that moment. That's legitimate, it's also a use case where 12 hours/day is likely sufficient. However users breaking TOS and keeping those apps awake 24/7 so recruiters don't have to wait ~30s for them to load is probably a problem Heroku's trying to solve.
The latter becomes more attractive now, and once you have learned to use AWS's X tech to run $SILLY_SERVICE you might end up using it for $SERIOUS_SERVICE.
It's not so much a "meh, I'd rather do git push heroku now than learn to setup elastic beanstalk/opsworks+docker/ec2+deis" than it is a "I just want to develop a quick idea without wasting time on ops".
1X – $25/month compared to $36.5/month (by the hour).
2X – $50/month compared to $73/month (by the hour).
PX – $500/month compared to $584/month (by the hour).
Basically, they're nerfing their free tier by charging $7/month for a 24/7 running app. People wanting to run a free app may look at App Engine or AWS's one year free tier, or compare the price among other "cloud" and cloud-ish services.
This also may not be much of a drop for people with minimal production requirements. Under the free hours system, 2x1X was $35 now it may be $50 unless the Hobby pricing is factored in for the first 1X and it's $25 + $7 = $32. For 2x2X the price drop will only be $6.50. Still it's good that the cost to scale has gone down.
The paid hobby tier is actually welcome change, the limitations of the free tier (often used for staging and demo environments) were (are?) annoying. The ability to run 1 dyno per Procfile entry (instead of per app) is a welcome change, as allows you to fully mimic production without dyno scaling more easily at a lower cost. People were likely using while allowing them to pay a reasonable price for these low-traffic systems.
I have been saying for a while 1X dyno is underpowered and unnecessarily memory limited considering it's price (particularly for Rails apps) even before 2X was announced. If I had my way the 1X would be dropped in favour of the 2X at the same price and the 1X only used for hobby and things like a worker role handling infrequent job queue processing. These price changes come pretty close to doing that, while adding a paid, but low-cost, hobby tier for applications with very limited needs.
Let's hope this is actually serious.
Ah well, guess I'll need to properly support that hubot now.
I've had some processes die semi-regularly, though, because the OS does a scheduled maintenance task that maxes out the 512mb RAM.
Adding a swap file seems to have taken care of it, though. I wish they enabled them by default on their smallest droplets: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-...
I'll be interested to see what they do to my existing apps.
I'd be happy to put credit onto the account to use the smaller tier, or PayPal it or something, but I'm not paying for a big footprint that I'm not using.
But clearly, unlimited "limited" Free cloud hosting will be over in a few years.
hobbyist devs and students really need to prepare for this.
This is the reason I chose Heroku as my platform in the first place over competitors, and if my experience is common, it worked out well for them because I have paid for premium tiers on certain apps along the way, and spoke glowingly of them to others.
I'm also still a little bitter that I incurred financial loss on one app because one of their quiet upgrades bonked Ruby 2.1.1 support, causing a big delay in a critical production push. (But I'm more annoyed that this will be about $100/month cost for me to keep my lighter traffic personal apps on Heroku).
Does that mean you'll pay $7 a month or $3.50 a month for a 24/7 dyno?
I agree with you though, they might think they're kicking out X freeloaders, but how many of those freeloaders have production apps and how many of them are in decision making positions?
If I have to leave, I'll move /everything/.
I will be moving everything off Heroku and investing in a new platform for my workflow if this is the case. Simple as that.
tl;dr : Current paying customers will see a discount of up to 30%. Current freeloaders will have to pay $84/year for functionality equivalent to what they get now.
Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time, meaning that they'd need to move to a new solution in less than an hour to save money. All the hand wringing is very silly.
This is very off base in my experience. I know countless beginner devs who swear by Heroku, because it's designed to be that simple.
You're not a 'freeloader' if you have lots of apps on the free tier but production grade ones where you pay premium. You're a paying customer in that case, and that's probably a common pattern with these 'freeloaders' - lots of free apps, but key paying ones.
All in all, I'm not going to pay $84/year for each of my 12-14 personal apps that have light traffic (couple hits per hour maybe). I'm going to pick a new platform and make it part of my workflow, and for the sake of simplicity, I will be moving all of my apps to it, paid ones included.
Seems everyone grows so big that they turn their backs on where they came from. They're no longer Heroku from the block.
I hope Heroku gets to focus more on the people who understand how many hours/year it takes to run a server safely and securely. At the same time, the free tier still exists and 12hrs/day is plenty for code schools and various tinkering.
It is a sad day.
Where are you moving your side projects?
EDIT: I'm asking since I have no idea where I should go next. Heroku was a blessing.
I had a good experience there, but it's a lot different from Heroku. There's no paid support or anything.
Also the cost of your existing dynos may not change if they grandfather and not change running dynos' prices. Who knows until they actually announce any price changes.
ps : I dont work for them
I'm still annoyed with Heroku though. Cachet (https://cachethq.io) supports the "Deploy to Heroku" button. My experience is that their support is terrible. I've contacted them several times via; Twitter, email, GitHub and had no support from them in regards to this bloody button.
The reason I support Heroku in the first place is because of the free tier. It makes deploying your own instance of Cachet much easier. However, we've been having issues supporting it with Laravel 5's environment configuration anyway, so this is the last drop in the bucket before I pull native Heroku support.
Our demo (https://demo.cachethq.io) and our own status page (https://status.cachethq.io) are both hosted on Heroku with the "Auto Deploy" function, but only because it's "easy" to do.
Historically, I have a bunch of personal free-tier apps which sleep most of the time, and a couple which are up most of the time. My consulting clients, on the other hand, have paid Heroku thousands of dollars per month at various points. I also maintain a buildpack.
But at this point, it's time I get off my backside, set up a docker host on EC2, and containerize the stuff I care about. I can probably pack everything onto a pretty small instance, and I've been meaning to deploy some non-HTTP services. Besides, it's closer to what I'm using in production.
Thank you, Heroku, for some very enjoyable years, for top-notch paid service, and for the free hosting!
A low cost $7/month plan for a dyno to always be running sounds good.
I understand there were probably too many apps running on free tiers, and probably some that abuses the TOS as well. But with AWS and others having cut prices so much, shouldn't Heroku also offer some kind of better discount?
Again, assumptions here, but maybe they found that only a very small % of users start with a completely free 24/7 app and move to paid? Maybe the folks who convert start with a low-utilization (<= 12 hrs/day), hence the limit.
I dunno. I'm just guessing that there's some logic behind the decisions.
I guess they want to go leaner, which is fair enough, but they will lose paying customers as well.
I'd recommend Pivotal Web Services over BlueMix, but that's only because I work for Pivotal.
IBM is trying to buy there way into the market.
How much would a db admin charge you per hour to do the same?
I think that's the wrong question.
A better question would be why you don't just rent a $50 dedicated server and run everything, including the database, on that.
If you think you need a "db admin" to do that then you should really re-evaluate your team.
Your $50 database doesn't need that. A simple backup works fine for a great many people.
I don't think your argument holds any merit at the level of hosting costs we talk about.
In order to match the performance of a measly $50/mo dedicated server you'll pay in the ballpark of $1300/mo to Heroku (16GB DB + 16 "dynos"). In between these two figures there's a lot of merit to be had.
have you looked at what is involved in upgrading to say Postgres 9.3 from 9.1
Yes, you stop the db, run pg_upgrade, and start the db.
But as you correctly state, most people in this bracket have no reason to upgrade their database software ever.
Regardless. If you do it yourself you still ned to spend time on it. For most of us that time is not free.