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i think there is a line to be drawn.. If the ORM is saving you no effort, I fully agree. However, I suspect most ORMs in the short term boost early productivity quite a bit.

It's like writing an app from scratch in assembly, versus C.. The compiler will do quite a bit of the dirty work for you, and if you look at it in a disassembler no doubt you could find tons of improvements to be made (errmmm depending on the compiler I suppose). Doesn't mean either one is the wrong way to go about it. Now if all you do is stuff ASM code in your C app, yeah.. Why bother?

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