A key feature of Sunrise is ""Users can access their calendars from Google, iCloud, and Microsoft Exchange, as well as connecting to a wide range of other third-party apps. "
Microsoft clearly understands that data-portability is becoming a major feature / factor in purchasing decisions.
Google, on the other hand, keeps trimming portability - particularly with MSFT.
In august, for instance, they killed Google Calendar Sync which made for simplified syncing with Outlook Calendar. (1)
If portability is what's driving this acquisition and strategy I am excited to see what's coming next.
First, they removed the normal email app, forcing me to use Gmail. I really dislike the Gmail app.
Next, they removed the normal calendar app, and replaced it with Google Calendar. I preferred the old one, and I don't use Google Calendar, I use Exchange.
And of course, I lost about 80% of my contacts (also stored on my Exchange account).
I've since switched to Nine and turned off Sync on my exchange account (via Android settings), and that's fixed a lot of my problems. I can't recommend Nine enough.
Its frustrating. I liked the old "vanilla" Android. I just want an OS that stays the way I configured it, instead of changing its interface and removing applications at random.
Anyone else have this experience? What's the option? Cyanogen? I just want a phone that works; I don't want to spend my whole life on this.
1. There's no guarantee that autoconfiguration will work, especially if your address is email@example.com but your server is exchange.example.edu.
2. You may be required to lock your screen with a password.
3. You may be required to allow remote wiping of your device (by your email provider, seriously?).
4. You may be required to enable ActiveSync in an out-of-band operation.
To make matters worse, error messages from any of the above tend to be completely meaningless.
But once you get past those hurdles, it's actually a pretty nice experience.
If you need to access calendars from other systems, you might be able to import or subscribe to them in your Microsoft account (live/outlook/onedrive/yahoo.com) online. I was able to integrate the school calendars of my children this way. It's not intuitive, but it's a set-and-forget task.
As a sidenote, this is the first time I have ever seen the solution to anything be "switch to WP8". Neat!
I've never built them outside of a whole platform build so you might (read: probably) will hit issues. This could be a fun project for someone and it sounds like there is demand.
> I don't want to spend my whole life on this.
Bonus WTF: the old email app had a view that combined all your inboxes in one places; the Gmail app does not. So for me (who uses several email accounts, none of which are on Gmail) it was a pretty dramatic downgrade.
It has the unified inbox view and a number of other goodies. I've been using it for years without any problems.
I don't think so. It's super easy to export all of your data from Google, whereas there's no way to export your contacts from Office 365 Exchange, unless you use some external client.
This was never a problem historically because nearly every user of Exchange also had a Windows computer with Outlook on it. With the 365 cloud stuff, however, it means that certain key features aren't available to you unless you first install a slow and bloated desktop email client. I'm a happy office 365 customer yet I only have Outlook for the kinds of features you mention.
I hope they catch up and simply make Outlook.com (and the Office 365 webmail, which is basically the same thing) have all those features too.
Just FYI, GO Contact Sync Mod works very well for me as a replacement for Calendar Sync.
And yes, so glad you've had the deserved subsequent successes. It would hurt had you given up, and saw this happen while sitting in a dead-end job somewhere.
It's incredible though that a calendar app is worth >$100M.
Microsoft desperately needs to hold onto the enterprise given that they are getting beaten a bit in the consumer space.
Most non-tech workers want everything through their phone. Microsoft had almost no presence there until the last year.
To be fair, the bigger obstacle, to me, is I don't want Google or Microsoft to have access to my data--ever. Especially since they are almost always going to be one of the buyers of a tech company I'm involved with, I don't want them being able to see exactly what I do, how I do it, and what my marketing and sales are.
No they don't. Most enterprise workers spend all day in front of a desktop Windows PC.
and interestingly this is the second calendaring acquisition microsoft has done, having bought jump.com back in 1999.
When you first download Sunrise you think 'wow, I can actually enjoy my calendar app!'. It's beautiful, fast, works on every platform and with every calendar provider.
Then you integrate it with all of your other services and you see how calendar can rival email as the center of your digital life. If you think about it, we should be checking our calendars to find out what we need to do, not our email.
Congrats to Joey (shoutout to HackNY!) and the rest of the team. This is a great reward for building a great app in an essential category.
I hope this acquisition means we'll finally see Exchange support on the web.
Sunrise's Android app is comparable to the GCal app on Android 5.0.
"Sunrise Calendar will receive the following info: your public profile, friend list, email address, birthday, work history, education history, events, groups and current city and your friends' birthdays, work histories and education histories."
Yeah, not gonna happen.
from what to what?
It's almost certainly because of some combination of the following factors:
1. Widespread usage,
2. Interesting, novel, or useful technology,
3. Strategic importance to the acquirer.
It's a bit like asking why the transfer of a soccer player costs $100,000,000. It's because someone is willing to pay it.
It's a calendar app. This stuff already syncs like crazy as it is. I would never consider a calendar secure, and would never put confidential information in it.
Think of, for example, medical offices: patient names are PHI. Assuming Microsoft does with Sunrise that it did with Acompli, I could easily see a small medical office thinking, "hey, this calendar is really cool and it's from Microsoft, so it's okay to use".
Should they have read the FAQ and seen that it's not HIPAA compliant? Of course. I can also see easily how Microsoft's reputation in business could lead to the assumption that their new acquisitions are business-grade, in spite of their consumer origins.
To bring it around to my original point, I'm interested to see how Microsoft can improve these apps to the point where they meet the expectations for Microsoft's business products.
You're inability to sense the sarcasm makes your entire response idiotic. Typical HN bullshit.
Oh internet warriors, I'd love to hear why my opinion is "wrong" rather than trying to bury a legitimate comment that applies directly to the discussion at hand.
Edit: It features the JQueryUI date picker. Funny how such value can come from free software.
You really just never know.
Does anyone on here use the Github integration? What do you get out of it?
Congratulations to the team!
>Upon first launch, Sunrise invites you to create an account, then asks you to add a calendar. The first option, “iCloud Calendar”, brings you to a screen where the Sunrise app itself, in its native interface and code, solicits your Apple ID (iCloud) email address and password. […]
Cause that doesn't sound to appealing... I am already on edge about "logging in with facebook" on 3rd party sites even though that login widget comes directly from facebook and not the site itself. But to flat out make your own textboxes where you ask the user to enter their AppleID and password? That's just wrong.
> We’ve heard Microsoft will keep the Sunrise apps alive as stand-alone products, while using some of the startup’s technology for its own future products.
I remember when lots of people told me how great it was going to be when MS bought Virtual PC for Mac (from Connectix) back in the day...
After MS touched the code, it was the first (and only) app to ever give my Mac a kernel panic. Then, it got even "greater" when MS discontinued Virtual PC for Mac entirely. MS bought it and killed a great app for Mac.
Will Sunrise avoid getting borged and ruined by MS? I hope not, but I'm not counting on it, either.
Times change. Look at some of their recent moves. It would be unusual for them to shut this down entirely. Probably a rebrand and then continued growth is what'll happen.
Right, but what they have done is shut down development on certain platforms. For example, they'll continue to develop Sunrise for Windows Phone, Windows OS but not for Android and/or make it unusable on Android, Mac, iOS, etc. by degrading the code.
They have a solid history of doing this. There's also a solid history of people telling me not to worry about it and being proven wrong over time. Again, color me skeptical.
They've discovered that one of the ways to success, aside from vendor lock-in, is to make your product integrate with as many other products as possible
Reviews in the Play store indicate that I'm not the only one hitting this issue, but I couldn't find anything acknowledging the issue on the Sunrise support site.
Here are a couple of reviews that mention this issue: