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If you use all features of scala you get at least 16mb pure js boilerplate. Even with dead code elimination you cant get below 100kb with 10 lines of scala. Im not sure if i would call that manageable. Your app might explode into megabytes at one point.

With es6 around the corner and the possibilities those features will provide, i would still bet on pure js. Those precompilers will benefit a great deal too. Symbols and Proxies alone will remove a lot of the hoops they have to go through now.

It's technically impossible to use all of Scala's features and if you do, you'd pay the same price with equivalent Javascript libraries.

I don't get this argument on the size of a hello world, given that JQuery 1.11 is over 270 KB and most people are just doing simple DOM selection with it, yet they don't complain their hello world comes with 270 KB of stuff they'll never use. Factor in React, Bootstrap, Angular.js or what have you and you can easily reach 1 MB of stuff that's never used for a couple of lines of code.

The app doesn't explode in MB, unless those MB are really needed - which is the fundamental difference between how these work and regular Javascript development. And given that there are some companies using these in production for non-trivial stuff and that nobody has ever reported that, I'm thinking that it doesn't happen.

My current app is currently clocking at 300 KB btw, but I am using the collections from the standard library, I am using a library for reactive streams built by myself, I am using React and I do have some code in it. And personally I find it OK.

In theory, jQuery can be brought in by reference from Google Hosted Libraries or cdnjs or whatnot, cached for a long time, and reused in any other website that uses the same external host and version. You can't say the same about your tree-shaken thingy... However, I'm not experienced enough to say how well that works in practice.

It really doesn't work out well, especially where it matters - on mobile phones with poor connectivity. Why do you think alternatives like Zepto.js exist?

Is that 300 KB minified and gzipped? I'm interested in scala.js but concerned about size.

Minified/optimized, but not gzipped. Size will depend on what you do with it. But play with it, see how it behaves, it's fun anyway.

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