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Speaking of #startups, that channel is free to join on irc.freenode.net.

Yeah no thanks. I've been on there a few times. That channel is filled with a bunch of sweary and self-centered people. It's probably the anonymity but I'd rather hang out in r/startups before I'd go back to the IRC chat.

It's got its plusses and minuses. People sometimes shoot the breeze rather than narrowly focus on the topic at hand, so yeah, sometimes there's a lot of noise compared to signal.

I prefer here, or, as of late, http://discuss.bootstrapped.fm/ for more serious discussions, although occasionally something interesting comes up on #startups. Sometimes the informality is helpful, as you can chat about something you don't particularly want plastered all over HN...

I often find that with most irc channels.

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