Touch typing skill is worth at least 50 bucks, apparently :)
What is your experience with the K810 ?
Height 20 mm (0.79 inches)
Width 299 mm (11.77 inches)
Depth 195 mm (7.68 inches)
Weight 820 g (1.81 pounds)
The K810 requires a touch more to track down, but:
Width 287 mm (11.30 inch)
Depth/Length 127 mm (5.0 inch)
Height 5 - 10 mm (0.20 - 0.39 inch)
Weight 337 g (11.89 ounce)
With this keyboard, the build quality seems even cheaper. They missed the chance to go solar (though that's debatable) and the fn key is in a different position than my current Logitech keyboards (they don't seem to have a guideline for this).
However currently I use a M325 wireless mouse and its very tough. Carry it in my dusty laptop bag, dropped it a few times - no problems at all. No issues with rubber degradation. Highly recommended and works with unifying receivers.
Also, once I broke my mouse, gave them a call and said "We are sorry that mouse is not in production anymore... So I will send you the newest version for free (80 euro price tag)."
As a replacement for a "main" desktop keyboard, it looks a bit on the too-optimized-for-mobility side of things with chiclet-style small keys and so on.
I bet it will appear in many people's living rooms though, since seems very well designed (I love the device-selection knob!) for in-couch computing environments to control pads, phones, consoles or perhaps set-top boxes.
I am glad that Logitech are thinking of new features to add to their devices, but I resent such small improvements being seen as innovative and worthy of the HN front page. Is that really what innovation has come to, a bluetooth toggle switch? Are we really prepared to set the bar that low?
A lot of my social communication happens through my phone, SMS and a plethora of mobile only communication platforms means that I am very frequently switching between my laptop and phone all day long.
> I don't doubt that the switching is quicker, but it's not that much quicker
Turning a knob is much faster than going into the settings menu on a phone (or on a computer!) and re-pairing. Repairing on a laptop can easily take 10+ seconds end to end from opening up the proper setting screen to BT scanning to actually finishing the pairing process.
Compare that to less than a second for turning a knob.
And again, this is something that I might be doing multiple times per minute.
I haven't used it, but I have looked at it for the same reason.
I also have a Das mechanical keyboard, and would love to have the convenience of Bluetooth, as well as using it wiht my phone, but with the same nice mechanical feel.
For example, if you had an iPad and iPhone you can have them both configured as the 1 and 2 positions, and switch the switch as the relevant device was docked.
With a lot of existing Bluetooth keyboards you would need to re-sync it each and every time you switched devices.
I use it for work, OSX on my left Windows on my right, single keyboard and mouse. It will even let you copy-paste text between computers.
By the time it arrives in shops that deliver to DE every single supplier will certainly make sure to offer a localized qwertz layout only. Shopping keyboards is hard here.
I've also just found that Currys (our last major high street electrical/electronics retailer that isn't part of a department store and is ubiquitous in most cities) has it available for next day delivery - http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/accessori... - only the white version, sadly, and it's also £49.99.
Edit: Also, when pre-ordering on the Logitech UK website, it asks me to select my layout and color.UK layout is available (thankfully - a lot of Logitech portable Bluetooth keyboards available on Amazon are US layout only).
Now .. I can order it in various languages, the only English one being the UK layout. ;-)
I'm reasonably sure I want the US layout, trying to compare them now to spot the differences.
Edit: Yeah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards - I am used to/want the US one. So still no luck unfortunately.
The tiny enter key is actually a requirement for me (to have \| in the right place). Hrm. So maybe I'll shoot one of these keyboards with the US layout on eBay in the future or something.
Full circle: Shopping keyboards is hard..
Seriously though, if you work with computers it's definitely worth your while to take a few weeks to learn how to touchtype properly in the layout of your choice.
I can touch type (although I've to admit that I'm not using the 'right' system. It works, both for text and code snippets and is quite fast, but .. well.. not the typical home row thing).
That doesn't help me here: The keys are physically in different places on these layouts. Look at a US keyboard and compare it with UK (or DE). Enter key, backslash, left shift key: Even if you remove the labels or just ignore them, keys are 'missing'.
On the other hand, this might be a good gadget for, say, sales people using tablets on the go and sync at the office. I'm most probably out of target audience for this device.
A long time i've been thinking about getting an external keyboard for my phone since I don't really like a touchscreen when it comes to typing. But this keyboard over a mechanical keyboard isn't really an upgrade if you ask me. Better get a good coding keyboard! And if you really are thinking about self-improvement when it comes to coding and working behind your pc, I'd always suggest Steve Losh his article: http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/a-modern-space-cadet/
I really like this one:
I keep it in my pocket. Goes a few months on a single charge. It has made my phones entirely more useful to me. That said, a rotary switch would be pretty nice on this thing...
For example, http://tinyurl.com/poo777c
Can these three things be conveniently combined? Make it the size of the k760, but with the backlit keys and a longer mobile device mount. The result might not be pretty, but would definitely be something I'd use for my multiple mobile devices + development use case.
I can totally see how this could appeal to people who don't need/want a separate notebook machine, keyboard etc and can get by with just a tablet.
 http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/detail_enebrick.html ; http://enebrick.cerevo.com/en/
> I think most people here are in a very firm or serious relationship with their keyboard.
In any case, I don't see this as a main keyboard replacement. But I do have a crappy computer that sits under my TV to play video/Netflix/etc. - this would be ideal for it.
Well, USB spec (pre USB 3.0 anyway) is 5v @ 100mA per port.
For iOS / OS X users, if you're using using an iOS device + OS X computer, you're able to carry over conversations and even e-mail between devices in iOS8 + OS X 10.10. It sorta eliminates some of the necessity of having a keyboard for your touch screens.
This may be useful for testing but even when I'm doing development, (and we have a fistful of devices) I'm rarely using the keyboards and with the limit of 3, it wouldn't really be enough.
It's /kinda/ the same, in that it allows you to pair it with 3 devices. It fails in regards to having a physical switch for selecting devices. Instead it'll connect to the highest 'ranked' device that's on. It works fine for switching between home/office, but not so much for phone/computer.
So, they can make long lasting keyboards or at least used to.
Turning a knob to switch devices seems terrible.
I was thinking it was kind of brilliant. Easy to do, easy to see which device you're talking to at a glance (especially if you have it labelled.)
Otherwise, I know of quite a few people who could really use this thing!
Lenovo and Apple place the Fn key to the left of the Control key. Most others place them the other way around.
That's the innovation part. 1 wireless + 1 wired doesn't help you much if you want to use it with multiple mobile devices (tablet + phone, for example) besides laptops.
Personally, your keyboard would be useless to me; when I want to use laptop + tablet, I just use a regular keyboard and the Remote Keyboard app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.onyxbits.re...
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I have all the Apple devices I need (MBA, iPhone, iPad[*
1], iMac) synced through iCloud. Why would I wanna switch between them, to add a notification or send an iMessage?!
 That's kind false. I don't need an iPad, it's just a perk :-P
I wonder if it maintains a connection with all paired devices or if there is a delay when you switch between them. I find that some of my devices take a while to connect/pair when I turn them on.
I'm using 1Keyboard both with a Moto G and iPad mini Retina on a MBP 15'' Retina.
That's hardly a replacement for a portable keyboard.
On the surface, that's true, but there can be little annoyances related to function key behavior, etc. on non-Mac OSes. Apple provides a Windows driver, but they don't appear to offer the keyboard configurator in Boot Camp to non-Mac owners.
EDIT: dialed down the snark
2. Running OSX on standard hardware, Apple OEM or not, is not very hard...
So... instead of just buying a portable bluetooth keyboard I need to build a hackintosh? Oh okay.
The Apple fans here never cease to amuse me with their asinine suggestions.
2. I am not a non-OSX user because I can't afford to buy a Mac. I am a non-OSX user because I don't like OSX.
There has to be a better interface than physically moving your hand up to the knob to change which device has focus.
Also if this could also charge your devices that would be awesome also.
Also honestly given the location and the likelihood of multitasking (say typing something on an HDTV, switching to a phone to type out a lengthy text message, and then back to a tv) I can't see an automated solution working well. You could do some NFC so that the slot would recognize a new thing being placed, but you'd still need an a way to switch away from it.
Charging would be a useful feature though.
Love the idea though!
I just need something super lightweight that works as both a stand and a keyboard with my phone or tablet (hate phone touch keyboards)
Those 2 things can't happen at the same time.
Is it easy to change the controller?
Very nice productivity killer though.
Pairing every single time is actually a plus for me: It acts as a barrier to avoid multitasking in different devices.