Which means they'll most likely die quickly. Nobody cares about their "business side", they were an Internet No 1. image hosting because they were hassle-free and mostly bullshit-free. What I expect to see is most users leaving to someone willing to provide no-bullshit upload service, and imgur to crawl into hole and die, like PhotoBucket or ImageShack.
The sad thing is, many links will probably get broken. Web, unfortunately, is extremely fragile.
My personal favorite was omploader, which I used quite a bit to share screenshots.
Interestingly, some of the arguments then were "What did you expect from a free startup?" and "Who cares? You still see the image."
Recently (post-$50M), I've seen this behavior when clicking random imgur links on the web from unaffected sites, but have been unable to reproduce it using spoofing tricks.
That said, I do find myself using alternatives [e.g. mediacrush] more and more. Its just not worth bothering with Imgur.
However, when paid (imgur pro) subs also get redirected and their uploads also get redirected, and "I created imgur because the other image hosting sites forced you to see their ad-ridden pages (TinyPIC). I would never do the same to you. If you want to direct link to the image, then by all means do so." no longer applies, it somewhat bothers me.
What they are doing now is called greed.
I doubt he brought that in. Discounting his labor? Sure it was profitable on Day 1.
But that is like saying I have a hobby that brings in 5% of my annual income and its "profitable". The fact I have to spend ~8 hours a week on it [about 20% of my $DayJob], means I'm still net negative in financial terms.
If I was doing contract work instead for those 8 hours, I'd come out with 300% more money.
Back in the day, imageshack & photobucket were all we had to upload photos into albums because Facebook hadn't taken off and MySpace didn't know what it was doing. After Facebook, the disconnect of User <-> Photos was gone. It was clear, these are my photos and look I'm even tagged in them. Imageshack and Photobucket seem to have pivoted to try to stay competitive. Tinypic is hardly worth mentioning because its quality is poor. Imgur's isn't.
So where do you go if you really just like popular photos? Imgur. The fact that they have a community that dislikes Reddit should be indicative of the success of their additions. Would you rather they stagnate and forever provide free image hosting? Who's going to pick up the bill after awhile? They need to do this.. and I think they're being pretty smart about it.
As a normal internet user, your points don't really stand out to me as a reason why I should start to become weary of imgur. If they piss enough people off, they'll get burned and another image hosting site will rise up to replace it (because seriously, it's not that hard of a technical problem).
Finally, as a personal note, I don't really appreciate commentary that doesn't at least try outline the pros of what they're doing. Oh no, they added a small button to create memes with? oh the horror..
http://mediacru.sh is a great alternative with a much more minimalist interface, and is free and open source (https://github.com/MediaCrush/MediaCrush)
- It's open source, so you can fork it if we screw up
- We are not a business and do not have a bottom line
I've recognized this pattern as well, and we hope to end it.
My only one complaint is that Imgur has a catchier and shorter domain name, as well as shorter paths, which makes links quite a bit more condensed.
I have a few questions.
1. Do you have accounts to store pics?
2. It would be nice if after uploading pictures the page would show all possible links like embed and share.
3. Do you plan to implement something like delete in 30 days?
2. Click "share" on the view page
3. No, but an external service could hook into MediaCrush to provide that
See ACDSee, Nero Burning Rom, etc etc.
Jeff Atwood wrote about this in 2007. It's a great shame that websites aren't listening to the mistakes made by previous software authors. http://blog.codinghorror.com/why-does-software-spoil/
"This is the sixth time we have destroyed Zion and we have become exceedingly efficient at it."
They constantly have (or fund) projects archiving services being deleted, etc.
For example, right now they are archiving an immense amount of Twitch.tv VODs which will be deleted in just a few days. This is an example archive which has recently been uploaded:
Is it coincidence, or are they legally or in any other way pressured to do it?
It seems most startups follow this route and I thought Imgur will be one of those exceptions. I was wrong it seems.
Flash enables multiple uploads on legacy browsers. Just enabling Flash for something simple like an uploader should not drain batteries.
Back in 2010, when Steve Jobs wrote a letter demonizing Flash, he had some points. Many complex banner ads were being made in Flash, and disabling the plugin led to static image ads being shown. Static images are much easier to display than streaming videos. What's worthwhile to note is that as HTML5 banners progress, with animations and video, we'll be faced with the same problem.
Regardless, Jobs' letter had a noticeable and lasting effect on many worldviews.
Imgur used to be so fast and quick to use, feature creep is going to be the death of it.
Something as simple as image hosting should not really take so long to load.
To me it seems Imgur has 2 uses:
1) Image hosting
2) Viral image community
As for their redirect behaviour? I don't think that's an issue at all. If you don't want to get that page, host it yourself.
I couldn't disagree more. Comments in the reddit default subs are bad enough when compared to the kind of discussion you see on HN, but comments on imgur are a mixture of the kinds of things you'll see on 9gag or funnyjunk fused with some of the worst of reddit's default subs' communities. They're absolute drivel, and they're only going to get worse because Imgur is specifically trying to attract these kind of people now.
Imgur - General public.
HN - Technical people, hackers, business people, founders.
Imgur - People submit funny/touching/stupid/whatever images and people post comments
HN - People post interesting/thought-provoking articles/sites and discuss them.
Now? Not so much.
I'm not sure how the community collapsed so fast or if it can be rescued.
I'm in Europe, the USA didn't get them, so there wasn't so much of a fuss. They managed to get away with it. Appalling and cynical.
I don't know if it's just because I'm old, but people need to stop whining about how free websites are behaving. If we were paying customers, then I believe we should have a voice in how the product works but if we're using it for free, then this feeling of entitlement has to stop.
Beggars can't be choosers. And whoever owns imgur has to make money as well, they're entitled to do whatever it takes to make as much money as they can, and if they lose you as a customer but make more money, that is their prerogative.
Imgur obviously needs money to stay afloat, but there are less annoying ways they could have gone about it.
Reddit has been bleeding money for years, probably more money than Imgur has yearly and for a longer time span, but they still have not compromised the integrity or usability of their site to gain money. They rely only on non-intrusive ads, Reddit gold, and donations.
4chan is in an even worse state, and has also only been making money through their 4chan Pass semi-donation feature.
Imgur could have created a new subdomain for the "new" site, or could have setup some entirely different applications that integrate with the main site, instead of detracting from the main product. As a company, they have a right to do what they want to make money, but as users most of us will always keep moving to the best solution once the old ones start shooting themselves in the foot.
Companies whose business model is to provide only a single free service for a massive userbase will always have to balance revenue and user alienation. Reddit and Imgur are leaning on opposite sides of that scale at the moment.
Honestly, I would consider an acquisition (by Google or whoever) to be a much better solution for everyone involved compared to the things they're trying now in desperation to get more revenue.