RAM - Processor - HD - Transfer
Linode 1GB - 1 Core - 24GB SSD - 2TB
DigitalOcean 1GB - 1 Core - 30GB SSD - 2TB
Now all they need to do is accept Paypal payments because I live in a third world country and do not own an international credit card.
I don't know if the following benchmarks are real, but if it is we're talking about really different hardware (780 Mb/s vs 250 Mb/s)
Maybe someone with both accounts can do a quick benchmark to verify or deny this data.
Everybody considers them expensive, unsafe and just plain evil. You pay with money you have and you pay a fixed price per month for the service -- no transaction costs.
If you want to sell stuff to the world, please support payment gateways that are not evil and as insecure as, well .. a credit card, would actually be the example.
Companies smart enough to allow people in nothern-europe to actually pay: Valve, Apple. Companies dumb enough not to: EA, Google. Who is selling online and who is not?
Newsflash: If your sales numbers are less in Northern-Europe than they are in the US, it's because you are either actively blocking those customers (region-locks or refusal to ship) or you are not accepting n-european payment gateways.
Credit cards are the equivelant of saying 'i only want american customers and everybody else can go to hell'. Let's just hope your bussiness is viable enough in just the US to be this ignorant.
In the UK I do as much online shopping as possible on my credit card. I get the added protection of the Consumer Credit Act, and prizes!
I mean they don't go spend themselves, are protected 100% against fraud (in the US at least) and if paid in full every month, cost nothing to the card holder.
If anything, it is not a company's fault that Northern Europe has social/cultural hang-ups for a mode of payment!
PayPal charges merchant fees. Most banks charge fees for direct debit. Bitcoin has transaction fees. Western Union has transaction fees. Even if you only accept cash, checks, and money orders, it will cost you time and fuel to deposit them at your bank.
The percentages might differ, but as long as you let someone else facilitate your transactions, there's no way to avoid paying some sort of fee.
> Because credit card system is not sustainable
and you say:
> I have never paid [...] and everything sails smoothly.
The parent is talking about the system as a whole, while you are talking about your individual usage/experience. Is it not possible that your usage is subsidized by those less financially organized?
What is inherent about the credit card system, at even a modest flat rate of 7%, that makes it unsustainable exactly? An examination by logic says that it is very sustainable, banking history says that it is very sustainable.
It's absolutely no different in concept than a bank loan or line of credit, so long as the lending agency vets their customers properly based on the ability to pay. If you do that, it's an extraordinarily convenient and useful system.
Banks have been making money on 7% loans for centuries. There is absolutely nothing unique about borrowing money on the spot via a credit card based on a previously set credit line.
It's not like this is some weird highly advanced stuff. Surely that's possible in the US as well?
On the other hand if someone malicious gets my credit card number they can use it to buy stuff and I have to go through a lot of trouble to get a new card.
With credit cards the liability is on the merchant that accepts the card to verify that the person presenting the card is authorized to use it. Card issuers will reverse charges and leave the merchant out the money in the event of fraud.
I'm probably less protected against fraud, but I haven't had a reason to worry yet.
The scary thing about debit cards is that when someone steals money with it, they're stealing your money. So if your account is drained and your rent is due tomorrow, you're in trouble. With credit cards, on the other hand, the thief steals the bank's money. Your money is safe the whole time.
It's also easier to track your spending on a debit card as you can check the remaining balance at any ATM rather than waiting for the bill or going online.
High fees for this stuff is the reason by so many banks changed their retail business model to things like Totally free checking(when you make 12 debit card purchases each month).
That being said, Linode gives you access to as many cores as available on the host. In my case, I have 8 cores available, while DO restricts the number of cores available to guests based on plans (starting at 1 core).
Another thing to consider is: If your jobs are typically CPU-limited, it's probably not best to use virtual hosting at all. Dedicated machines would be far more economical for you.
Anyway, it's nice to see linode finally come down in their price point, thank goodness for competition, they're obviously responding to DO with this move. Unfortunately the $5 DO is good enough for me [SSD makes is so that swap time is less painful if I temporarily max out the RAM] so, alas, will be sticking with DO for now :|
Very few of my servers need more than 1 GB RAM, and the CPU and SSDs perform similarly across DO and Linode (for my purposes). I'll still be using a bunch of 512MB Digital Ocean servers for utility purposes, but I'm hoping that these Linode VPSes will continue the trend of being slightly faster/more stable than low-end VPSes from Digital Ocean and other lower-end/inexpensive hosts.
Since I now use Ansible for all my infrastructure management (and Ansible integrates easily with Linode and Digital Ocean), it's trivially easy to move individual servers between providers. This is not only nice to assist with using the best price-performance combo, regardless of provider, but also so I can move production infrastructure from provider to provider and benchmark them against each other more easily.
Meanwhile I'm slightly concerned about the future quality from Linode, as low-priced $10 plan will certainly get lots of customers, but it may also bring down quality from Linode. Popularity normally plays against quality, I hope I am wrong.
1. Their support, while still fast, has turned into script-reading drones and I've often been frustrated when trying to deal with more complex issues. They seem to assume everyone is stupid, which I think is a consequence of having many customers.
2. DoS attacks against other customers have gone way up, causing datacenter-wide network outages. I think this is a consequence of having too many non-professional customers who attract the wrong kind of attention. Creating a $10/month plan will certainly not help with this.
Linode has been a great company and they deserve to enjoy the fruits of their success, but it is definitely disappointing as a long-time customer to see quality decline as they grow in popularity.
They've had a $10 plan for a looong time. It's just recently that they got rid of it, and now it's back.
(I've been customer for 9 years, and have occasionally hung out in their forums where caker also hangs out.)
I don't see any reasons they'll not let me downgrade, since there is no reason to pay $20 and use the $10 spec, right? I'll keep you posted about it.
Basically, I don't lose any money.
On Linode, I stopped using their 2 GB VPSes for the past year, but before that, I had 3 of them. One had about 5 minutes of unscheduled downtime over the course of a year, the other two only had a few scheduled restarts where Linode emailed me a day or so before it happened.
Anecdotal evidence, to be sure, and I've been extremely happy with both providers (Digital Ocean has been very good, much better than any other sub-$20/month provider until today's news)—but when push comes to shove, I would rather have my more critical VPSes on Linode.
root@web1:~# uname -a
Linux web1.netstock.co 3.9.3-x86-linode52 #1 SMP Mon May 20 09:32:28 EDT 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
15:29:46 up 328 days, 13:16, 4 users, load average: 0.30, 0.15, 0.12
root@li346-160:~# uname -a
Linux li346-160 3.7.5-linode48 #1 SMP Thu Jan 31 14:40:54 EST 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
15:31:11 up 487 days, 11:10, 6 users, load average: 0.17, 0.09, 0.07
Every time I hear/see these crazy high uptime entries I cringe a little at the security implications. Unless you're applying updates to everything but the kernel, but still there have been at least 2 local vulnerabilities in the past few years.
I don't trust people's opinions unless either of them get caught outright lying on their status pages. ;)
Anecdotal: I've seen ~5x as many VPS restarts due to host issues on DO than Linode.
Of course, this is all anecdotal, but Linode really does seem to over report on their status page. And DO perhaps under reports.
I don't think you can go wrong with either for medium sized companies (< 100).
18:39:03 up 249 days, 4:57, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.20, 0.24
Moved off of Linode since we were down fairly often (to be fair it was Linode's Fremont DC) but we'd also have our dev server go down every month or 2 in Dallas.
Honestly I think it's probably hit and miss and depends a bit on luck and the server your VPS gets setup on.
One of my big reasons for having a few DO instances was the price + having Arch--many of the cheap providers don't provide Arch images. This new Linode plan will be a good option for the lower-end needs.
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I mean, is it possible to automatically set up a throttle, to avoid charges when going over 2TB? (or do I have to fiddle with iptables to find a way to do that).
Also, do you know if it's possible to get a /48 IPv6?
On https://library.linode.com/networking/ipv6 they only mention /56
I'd hate to run a HE tunnelbroker just because they don't support that :-/ (I love HE.net and tunnelbroker.net, but it would just be wasteful)
EDIT: /48 make running multiple VPNs very easy - that's lazy, but IPv6 are not scarce resources!
EDIT2: just got an answer - they can't do /48 :-(
For more general benchmarks, this is handy: http://serverbear.com/
But really, spin them up and test for the things that your usage case most needs. My stuff doesn't hit the disk at all, so the fact that Hetzner doesn't (at a glance) appear to be SSD-backed wouldn't bother me, but might not be OK for someone else's usage case.
I closed my account a few days ago when I realized I hadn't touched it in a couple of months, but the $10 will probably lure me back. It's nice having an extra vps or two for testing/backups etc.
Until 2008 or 2009, they were also still using UML, instead of XEN.
However, at this price point, I'm considering spinning up a second server just to tool around with (which is what this server was originally for before I and all my friends started relying on it as a proxy/gameserver/URL shortener/IRC persistor).
Edit: I don't know who downvoted me, moderators fix please?
Linode is more of a VM host with a few also-ran services that they are experimenting with (Load Balancing).
If all you need is somewhere to host a cheap VM, go Linode. If you want to make use of a larger collection of services (that you don't have to maintain) to build applications on, AWS may be worth a look.