My husband and I had an Adventure Time themed wedding a month ago and we turned a whole slew of people into fans that way - our cake baker, some of the venue staff, a whole bunch of our friends and family. Unlike MLP and other shows where I feel like I have to explain things for people to get started, AT is generally great enough that I just tell people to watch any episode and then just blow their minds explaining some of what's going on in the show at large that they might not have picked up on. Love it.
Cake (and we even got CN's permission for it! suck it disney!): https://www.flickr.com/photos/argon/13347167874/
His and hers flowers with Finn and BMO: https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/p480...
And one of the centerpieces ;) https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-...
(Also the character designer from Adventure Time is working on a new cartoon called Bee & PuppyCat, also in a similar awesome vein http://beeandpuppycat.cartoonhangover.com/)
"Creator, I am eager to commence the creation and propulsion of pies forever, but my pie-hucking appendage is... malfunctioning, and my oven lamp is cold, and my tank treads do not roll! They only do skids! Why, creator? Does it please you to watch me struggle?"
The line is a joke but the delivery just makes me feel a deep existential angst.
Just a quote. Episode "Beyond this Earthly Realm", Ice King is watching static on TV (how cool this was?), he can alter it because of his ghostly condition in that scene, and then he comes up with this:
“What do you think, Finn? Can we pull back the veil of static and reach into the source of all being? Behind this curtain of patterns, this random pattern generator... so clever. Right here in every home, watching us from a one-sided mirror.”
This is unassumingly awesome.
Or NEPTR's "You cannot tell, but I am giving a thumbs up." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTTplK3kin8
In other words, the humor/atmosphere is much geekier than what you'd expect to find on a television show. The only other show I remember with this aspect is Futurama, except that Futurama is overt with its jokes, whereas Adventure Time has many shades of subtlety.
Then there's the idea that a robot is "doing a thumbs up" in some sense or another that doesn't get across through the physical realm. That's how I perceived it, aynyway.
I actually saw "All the Little People" as an advanced version of The Sims.
I've gone through a few drafts of this comment trying to explain what I love so much about it, but I can't seem to think of anything that wouldn't just be rehashing what either Pendleton Ward or Maria Bustillos have already covered in the article.
All I can say is that I highly recommend this show to everyone, as it's the only thing on TV that I make sure to follow as-it-airs.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that I watched S06E01E02 again this morning and remained completely blown away by the writing, acting, and animation. Ron Perlman plays a Lich King that feels dangerous in a way that few other "children's story" villains come close to.
One of the best scenes in Adventure Time is when Ice King goes to Marceline's house to jam. It turns out the "lyrics" Ice King wrote were actually messages to Marceline the little girl that he wrote hundreds of years ago, before the crown turned Simon into the Ice King.
I went ahead and put the spoilers tag :)
Bringing it closer to Adventure Time than Cowboy Bebop however, it includes the work of a wide range of artists in different episodes, and isn't too minded by continuity. It also benefits from surprisingly bearable English voice acting and translation in Adult Swim's dubbed version.
Here's a review:
It covers interesting themes, but skips out on sexuality (mainly cause I'd do a poor job explaining such jokes off-the-cuff to my daughter). Yet it's fun enough that they never lose interest, unlike some Star Trek episodes.
The rebuilds, so far, seem relatively not-so-violent, and at least not violence for violence's sake. The only hardcore scene I recall overall is when Unit 2 gets eaten in one of the earlier movies. And it's all redeemed by destroying and or recreating the world anyways.
I pretty much gave up on Cartoon Network a long time ago when it met its downfall, and have moved on with life. The only animation I've watched since then has been Ralph Bakshi.
At the very top level, Adventure Time actually has serial elements, as opposed to Cartoon Cartoons' strictly episodic nature. Character's actions in previous episodes have real and lasting consequences.
The bottom line, for me, is that if your station sells commercials to "anyone with money" then my kids are not allowed to watch your channel.
I like to assume that HN is a very broad filter for the most relevant high-level & low-level technology, media, news, discussion and tangentially related topics.I understand the need to have a broad focus, because restriction is friction and seemingly unrelated content can be extremely useful sometimes.
However, I don't find this cartoon particularly innovative or interesting, and to me (someone uninitiated) I would have trouble picking it out from the horde of look-alikes on cartoon network. Collaboration in media and cartoons have been around for ages, and adult cartoons have been around since the simpsons. Maybe this deserves to be here, but I could think of a lot of content I would rather see at the top.
However, AT also goes beyond that.
It deals with themes like love, rejection, death, identity, and morality in very real and mature ways...but also in a way that children can relate to and laugh at it. There are quite a lot of episodes that deal with the main characters struggle with an unrequited love and heartache. An incarnate Death and "the cosmic owl" are reoccurring characters. One major arc is one of the characters struggle with (magic induced) mental illness. The show itself takes place after a nuclear holocaust has ripped apart the planet and mutated the inhabitants (referred to in the show as "the mushroom war").
One episode for example, the main character finds a bag full of miniature figurines in the form of all his friends. When he takes them out of the bag, they come to life. He becomes fixated on them. Obsessively pairing them up and taking them apart to observe their reactions. He takes the miniature version of his best friends girlfriend and pairs her up with another man. He stops sleeping, he just sits surveilling this tiny world he has become god of. It's depicted very much as a descent into madness.
There are quite a lot of episodes like this, and while they often get heavy and dark they never lose their young audience or fail to maintain an overall uplifting and optimistic tone.
I wish I had a show like this when I was young.
If you find yourself loving everything in a medium, it probably means the medium itself is fairly low quality designing itself to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I think it's a good thing to find things you don't like now and then.
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I find a particular affectation whereby some people take things that are popular then decide that they will dislike them on the basis of that and nothing else.
It's important to realize, though, that Hacker News isn't just for articles about tech and startups. That's a common but wrong misconception. We want a wide range of intellectually interesting articles. That's been true for as long as HN has been HN.
Given Adventure Time's regular toying with ideas like SCIENCE vs. MAGIC, boundaries of morally responsible science, D&D meta-geekery (character alignments), machine sentience (BMO), and all of the games it plays in gender & identity roles and other existential weirdness, I always assumed it's adult audience would be strongly represented on HN.
Not only was the article the most in-depth analysis of the show I've ever come across, but the comments here contain intelligent discussion and observation that lead me to similar analyses and content like Adventure Time.
This was a perfect article for HN, as I use it; identify things tangentially interesting to the 'hacker' mind, in all it's different forms, and provide intellectual discussion on it.
Thanks to OP for finding it and you (dang) for allowing the discussion to remain. Glad to have seen it.
EDIT: for clarity
Ultimately, I have met a number of people who are so incredibly serious (and usually fairly young) that if it isnt a math paper, it's a waste of humanity. If only our brains worked like that!
Embrace neurally diverse experiences!
To go one step further, and be confident enough to express that opinion is something that's not just beyond me, but is nearing some form of delusion.
Just to be clear:
You've never watched it, yet somehow manage to judge it as unoriginal and uninteresting?
I am not devaluing the show. I find that many of my friends enjoy watching GoT. I do not however. I would also be sort of confused finding an interview with the cast and crew on HN.
Let me be blunt, I don;t find this content relevant and I think others are suffering from the bias of their affinity for this show. Honestly this just seems like reddit,I am arguing a subjective opinion about a cartoon...
On a more serious note, analyses of unique creative endeavors are absolutely in scope here. Running a show is a lot like running a company - it requires vision, execution, and a lot of hard work. I thought reading about this show (which I had never heard of until the moment I clicked on the link) was akin to reading about start-up companies, except with more compelling source material and more interesting writing than the usual start-up story.
Open your mind, man!
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, and I've no dog in this fight...but it's a lot more than just an entertaining piece of media; seeing it on HN does not surprise me.
I hate it. Hate, hate, hate it. Hate it.
The main character is a hacker scientist who with his grandson fight aliens, explore parallel dimensions and save the world from destruction!
God, is this comment narrative old; If you don't think it should be on HN, go read something else, and certainly stay out of the comment thread.
I'm thankful it was hovering on second page on Sunday so I could catch the damned story. Best analysis of Adventure Time as an adult narrative I've every seen, really.
Why should I stay out of the comments?
As long as I follow the rules, I can comment whatever I want. I have as much right to "comment" my opinion as you have to downvote it. I have no problem taking the downvote hits.
Don't like it? go read something else, and certainly stay out of the comment thread.
There's a pretty good reason, actually. Because the HN community voted it there, and continues to discuss it. Plenty of comments have shown people in this community find it intellectually stimulating, which is the clearest pre-requisite for the link share. OTHER PEOPLE put it on the front page.
Not good enough for me.
Best analysis of Adventure Time as an adult narrative I've every seen, really.
IMO it's an overhyped show for the manchildren in a traumatized post 9-11 US (and, by it's cultural influence, the rest of the developed world).
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complaining something is on the front page, for all intents and purposes, is the same as saying it isn't appropriate for the site. Therefore, don't comment about it. Flag it. If you can't, than be civil and useful in comments until you can.
This site isn't for YOU. It's for everyone, and you're breaking the rules. Play along, or move along.
Thanks for adding some actual content. It didn't really reply to my comment on this particular analysis, but I think I understand what you're getting at.
It's over-hyped, how? As in, popular and successful? or, heavily advertised? or just regarded better than it really is?
It's not really 'for' anyone but is meant to be appropriate for children, per the artist's interview in the article. Us man-children just like it, because it is poignant, intelligent, timely, and open-minded.
how a traumatized population in a post 9-11 US plays into Adventure Time is not 'obvious' to me. Perhaps you could enlighten all of us in 'bottom of thread' land as to what the hell you're talking about?
I respect your opinion, fellow internet denizen. I just don't appreciate your approach.
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