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Coal power is more deadly than fission power?

When has coal power ever created the sort of crisis that occurred in Fukushima?

Because of fission reactors, the safety of entire regions of the world is dependent on a consistent power supply and lack of human error, something that clearly we can not rely on. In the event of a cosmic emp or major meteor strike, these power plants are at risk.




Coal power creates that kind of crisis every day, so we don't bother calling it a crisis anymore.

A total of 240,000 years of life were said to be lost in Europe in 2010 with 480,000 work days a year and 22,600 "life years" lost in Britain, the fifth most coal-polluted country.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/jun/12/european-...

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"commissioned by Greenpeace International" who I'm sure would back the position that nuclear fission plants are safer than coal.

Of course, nuclear power plants are safe short term. Their threat is catastrophe, which given time, is inevitable.

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Even with a catastrophe every 50 to 100 years nuclear kills far far less people than coal.

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This is not really calculable, nor is the number of people killed by coal calculable in any reasonable manner. However the impact of nuclear catastrophe is far far more insidious and lasting, particularly when caused by a global calamity that causes meltdown in many plants.

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> This is not really calculable, nor is the number of people killed by coal calculable in any reasonable manner.

Of course it is. 161 people are killed for each THw of coal energy. And 0.04 people for each THw of nuclear power and this INCLUDES Chernobyl!

http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/03/deaths-per-twh-by-energy-so...

http://www-958.ibm.com/software/data/cognos/manyeyes/dataset...

> However the impact of nuclear catastrophe is far far more insidious and lasting

Clearly you've never seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Fossil_Plant_coal_fly... the radiation and heavy metals released from that can never be cleaned (just diluted).

> particularly when caused by a global calamity that causes meltdown in many plants.

A what?? And how do you manage that? If you have unreasonable fears then there is no point in talking to you. Reason will not remove an unreasonable fear.

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I suppose fear of a 9+ earthquake followed by a massive tsunami off the coast of Fukushima was considered unreasonable.

We are on a blob of rock hurtling through an unknown cosmos. Calamities are very possible. It is deeply irresponible to create projects that will make large parts of the earth uninhabitable should the power grid fail for a long period or human stewardship go on hiatus. Meteor strikes, emps, plagues, terrorist attacks, economic collapse,and other disasters are well within the realm of possibility

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Because of Greenpeace's history (the death of an anti-nuclear testing activist and the destruction of one of their ships at the hands of French special forces in 1985 [1]), and their current anti-nuclear stance [2], I don't think they would back that position.

They would back the position that wind turbines are safer than coal, so you're not wrong that they might be biased to imply coal is more dangerous than it is.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior

[2] http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/campaigns/nuclear...

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I was being sarcastic to point out the irony of referencing a Greenpeace study to support nuclear power over coal.

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Greenpeace are not pro-nuclear.

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I was being sarcastic to point out the irony of referencing a Greenpeace study to support nuclear power over coal.

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Coal causes about 100 times as much radiation as nuclear power:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=coal-ash-is...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_waste#Coal

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Where would you rather work: a nuclear power plant, or a coal mine? I know I would rather work in a nuclear power plant; it is far safer.

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How many people died as a result of the reactors at Fukushima? How many miners die each year from coal mining?

Coal directly impacts global climate change and is a crisis which dwarf Fukushima.

I don't get your point.

However whilst I am pro-nuclear, I would like to see a move away from the current fission reactors to molten salt or fusion reactors.

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