Ways to upload to imgur include clicking upload button, using file dialog; dragging and dropping onto the webpage; OSX dashboard widget (used this one when I was on mac); windows context menu (right click send to imgur); chrome extension; FF extension; bash script; wordpress plugin... basically any way you can think of, you can put images on imgur quickly. Oh and not blocking 3rd party referrers, and actually doing a good job of handling images makes a big difference. To the latter point: I was uploading images from iOS to wordpress but the orientation was in the EXIF data. WP ignored this so my images were rotated the wrong way... use `convert` to fix them 1x1 = pain in the ass. Select images, drag/drop onto desktop, group as album... surprise surprise: imgur orients the pictures properly automatically.
The UX on imgur is what I'd call a case study of good UX, basically the best I've seen on any website. Kudos to imgur, they deserve all the success they're getting. /fanrant
It took me less than 5 seconds to upload this image and get my hands on a unique, neat URL leading to said image: http://i.imgur.com/1o3iJe1.gif
* Type: imgur.com & hit enter
* Drag image from desktop and drop
* Hit enter
* Click (optional)
No prompts to log in or create an account. No need to navigate to an 'upload' button. No prompts to share on various social media sites. No intrusive adverts.
The sheer simplicity and convenience is immense.
Probably not worth worrying too much, but it is important to keep in mind the terms of the site. Your cute or clever meme may end up on a T-shirt.
> With regard to any file or content you upload to the public portions of our site, you grant Imgur a non-exclusive, royalty- free, perpetual, irrevocable worldwide license (with sublicense and assignment rights) to use, to display online and in any present or future media, to create derivative works of, to allow downloads of, and/or distribute any such file or content. To the extent that you delete a such file or content from the public portions of our site, the license you grant to Imgur pursuant to the preceding sentence will automatically terminate, but will not be revoked with respect to any file or content Imgur has already copied and sublicensed or designated for sublicense. Also, of course, anything you post to a public portion of our site may be used by the public pursuant to the following paragraph even after you delete it.
Only thing that would be easier if GIMP had a "save to Imgur" feature (and I bet there's a plugin for that ...).
1. potential legal issues with referring directly or indirectly to imgur
2. it really comes off as a cheap copycat rather than a unique product serving a different (albeit somewhat similar) purpose.
Come up with a creative name indicative of the fact that it is in fact a standalone, not dependent on or related to imgur itself in any way.
The problem with the name "Audiour" is that it's not easily pronouncable. If I remember correctly, imgur was aimed to mimic the word "imager". When I read "Audiour" the first thing I think of is an audiotour in a museum. When I try to pronounce it, I have the choice between "audi-our", "audio-er" or "audi-oor".
If you're interested, I bought soundur.com because in my opinion that's a much better name.
You can have it if you want - contact me at username @gmail.com :)
Just please don't try and emulate their success in your startup, bc it likely won't work. These guys won the side-project lottery so an amazing kudos to them.
This is far from the truth. There was a clear demand for free image hosting that is easy to work with, and imgur fit the bill.
It really was a scratch your own itch kind of thing. So many redditors complained about the crappy image sharing sites...lots of them were verboten to use on reddit because they were so spammy, or slow, or whatever. There was no clear leader in the image sharing space. Facebook was impossible (because it wants to own every user and won't let you show someone something without logging in), even if it were an acceptable place to upload weird random pictures (I know many people who do, but they just don't know about reddit and imgur yet). So...imgur's founder saw a very clear need, and humbly pointed redditors to it.
It took off because it was amazing in its simplicity and sincerity. imgur's founder clearly wanted you to share funny pictures in imgur, even if he couldn't figure out how to make it pay him money for every image. He just wanted to solve a very real problem that caused millions of people tiny amounts of pain. (When picking a problem, pick one that causes either a few people a lot of pain, or one that causes a lot of people a little bit of pain. You're unlikely to find a problem that causes a lot of people a lot of pain, since those are already usually very competitive.)
Like most redditors I was shocked when I couldn't use my karma to buy stake in imgur. After becoming depressed that imgur was not really a "gift", I quit reddit, and decided to found a startup. And now I'm here. So thank you for that imgur.
I'd be surprised if many readers know what the hell you're talking about.
I agree. They make it look lucky because they executed so well. Good entrepreneurs have a habit of making it look easy to outsiders (Zuck was lucky because he was at Harvard and had the right connections, etc.)
There is a new problem of this type at reddit and other sites if somebody wants a project idea to work on. The problem is animated GIF's. At the moment most animated GIF's are too large, not optimized and the sites are slow.
This has been a constant long-term complain on some of the sports subs that I frequent that post highlights from games. You press the button to display the animated GIF inline and it loads a couple of frames a second and takes 10-30x the GIF length to load. There are two factors here:
1. A lot of people don't know how to optimize animated GIF's. You don't need 24 or 30 frames per second where 8 will suffice, and you don't need full image quality on mobiles or tablets, or even on desktops. You can cut down the frame rate automatically and scale up the compression for some clients to load faster.
2. A lot of the regular hosts are overloaded and slow.
A service idea for animated GIF's would be to specify a video to cut from then have the service automatically create and load desktop, mobile and tablet versions with low frame rates and hosted from a decent CDN. The regular posters are now using Google+ since it loads, but they haven't solved the optimization part.
You don't have to spend a lot of time online to see and identify these pain points, you just have to be in the right mindset where you notice them and can identify the opportunity.
edit: If anybody wants to do this, email me (in profile) and i'll send you my notes. It is something that I considered putting together but I don't have the time. I did do some research though (i'm a mod at some sports subs). If you serve optimized versions for different devices then that would be a good reason to get submissions linking to an HTML page rather than hot-linking to an image.
Pipeline would be:
upload video -> convert to 3 optimized version -> visitor lands on your HTML page -> serve version based on UA
I hate watching a 30 second animated gif where the fancy skill or whatever that it's trying to show is about 2 seconds long and I have to keep looping round and round again to try to catch the critical moment.
Maybe it's already out there somewhere, but I've not seen it.
On the other hand, I believe the <video> element could be The Animated GIF Killer. GIF compression is terrible especially for video, and I'm sure with some tweaking of compression options you could make a .mp4 video with higher quality and a fraction of the size of the equivalent .gif. If there were some site like Imgur that let you upload some small video fragment, let you do the appropriate timeline snips, and automatically created a nice small .mp4 and a fallback .gif, that would be truly excellent.
Give it a maximum video length of 10 or 20 seconds and pre-load the site with a bunch of the more popular reaction GIFs like the Picard Facepalm and Orson Wells clapping, and you should be good to go.
EDIT: Looks like https://mediacru.sh/ does at least the GIF->MP4 encoding, although it misses imgur's handy "here's how to use this on your site" examples.
No tweaking needed. Test it yourself: Download any of those huge gifs and encode it to h.264 with ffmpeg defaults. With no perceptive quality loss it's immediately 60-90% smaller. And then h.265 comes along soon.
The advantages of animated GIFs made sense pre-video tag.
Also user forums like reddit are a lot more likely to permit images in posts than a video tag, so you get the added portability of being able to post it almost everywhere.
It helped me to go from 6 MB to 100 KB for my specific type of video to animated GIF conversion.
I can't find the proper words to comment this.
I remember watching star wars on one of the earliest web streaming sites - the image was around 150x150px and would refresh once per second. It was still the most awesome thing I had ever seen at the time, though.
Well that's not true. Just get the image url and you're good to go.
So do I.
It's kind of funny to see some of the things that have been born out of reddit or other social communities, having read the posts that resulted in them.
On that note, I wonder how the history of project origins is going to change, in a sentimental way. We hear folklore of person X talking to person Y at dinner, which birthed projected Z. Now we can link to where MrGrim first promoted one his project.
For the interested, he did an AMA on reddit.
Have you seen the price of cancer drugs?
There are plenty of these around, so I doubt it was being free and simple that made them "win" (we have an ad-free one with even simpler UI, for example). There were 2 factors that contributed most to their success in my opinion: a) being used much on Reddit, b) being awesome at implementing many useful, well-designed features. Without a), they would probably still have won this race, but at a much slower pace.
- low latency (images served instantly)
- no ads (initially)
- upload, get link
Initially there were zero features. The pace was entirely based on serving images fast. Everything else you think of imgur came later.
The founder also made a thread claiming it was a "gift" to Reddit while also saying the same thing to Digg.
For some reason people feel obligated to link to the Imgur page instead of directly to the image. This allows Imgur to make money off the ads on the page. Maybe this is because the founder made it seem like he made the site just to solve Reddit's image hosting problems for free(he also made a similar announcement on Digg).
Without this support and the growth of unlimited bandwidth servers, I don't think Imgur would have became so big.
If they decide to disallow hotlinking or add more intrusive ads, another replacement would pop up. This is probably why the founder wants to focus on getting revenue in a different way.
I can't find the reference, but IIRC he (the founder of Imgur) didn't make any money for the first couple of years, as the bandwidth costs were crazy high. But he was happy to do so, because it helped the community there.
> Without this support and the growth of unlimited bandwidth servers
Without the support of his community he wouldn't have made it. I also remember him saying something along the lines of "I make no money to pay for bandwidth if you reference the .jpg file itself, but I still allow it. So I simply just ask the community to use the Imgur URL". It became part of Reddit culture to do the latter, because the users valued the service.
TL;DR - Provide a valuable service, don't piss of your users, and you can actually make some money.
> The company is also profitable, and it has been since about a year after the site launched. Schaaf declined to share the specifics on what those profits are, but they are at least high enough to have moved the Imgur team from their roots in Ohio to a snazzy new San Francisco office with 10 full-time employees and three contractors/part-time workers.
"The company is also profitable, and it has been since about a year after the site launched."
Or is it because the founder of imgur told people he made imgur just to help Reddit users?
Before imgur, most links were direct.
The answer to this question should be interesting to entrepreneurs here: Is it a good strategy to create a business for a large social network under the pretense of public good? Is the sheer number of users more important than how monetizable they are and the likelihood they will reciprocate?
For example, since the pro account as no inactivity pruning, I bet you could setup a photography website that hosts tons of images, and use imgur as your primary image host to offset bandwidth use...
One of the nice things about imgur, though, is that once you've uploaded an image it gives you a nice handy preview page where you can do things like add a heading above the image or a caption below it, and gives you sample HTML and bbcode to copy and paste to embed the image on your own site. If you could do that, especially if the HTML code used <video> with the GIF in an <img> as fallback, I imagine that would be pretty sweet.
I agree that redditors on the whole are pretty supportive of imgur, but a good part of that is because Imgur is very trusted: it got an initial burst of trust by being (a) from reddit and (b) better than the alternatives, and it's continued to repay that trust with interest in the intervening years. That's not to say that other sites can't or won't be better, just that (as I'm sure you've found) other sites will have an awfully steep hill to climb unless they're mind-blowingly better, or Imgur somehow shoots itself in the foot (by disabling hot-linking, or requiring Facebook authentication to upload images, etc.)
Albums are coming in the somewhat near future, and you'll be able to caption them. Also, the developer docs  document the easy-to-use embedding tool for putting them in your own websites, but maybe we should make that more visible.
Also, I was talking about MediaCrush with a friend just now, and he pointed out that nowhere in MediaCrush's ToS does it mention anything about deleting images other than by legal pressure. Imgur says they'll delete images after three months without a hit; MediaCrush doesn't say that, but it doesn't not say it either.
> The only thing we store about you is your hashed IP address when you upload a gif. It's impossible for us to get your original IP address from this.
What algorithm do you use? It's not that hard to brute force all 2^32 IPv4 addresses with SHA2 -- (even less if you exclude improbable ones)
Do you trust this service or not? Don't trifle around with stupid shit like this.
EDIT: Or you can run a self-hosted instance of MediaCrush, it's open source: https://github.com/MediaCrush/MediaCrush
And then you have to trust the endpoint: you.
And frankly, I get sick of the undue and infinity-about paranoia. It gets tiring hearing again and again.
I'm an idiot, bcrypt generates and appends it's own salt to break rainbow tables, but I'll leave the above.
- try to contact honestbleeps from the RES subreddit  and see if he can add MediaCrush support in RES to expand images from posts
- add file extension to the URL, it may help with some extension like HoverZoom or script .
edit: nvm, it works if I add the extension myself, but it would be great to add that to the URL when you upload a file.
As for HoverZoom, we don't really want to be involved with them . We considered it, but decided against seeking their support.
While I won't argue that they're supportive of imgur, do you have any evidence of them being hostile towards your service?
I just went to your page, and I was in the midst of critiquing your design when it occurred to me that the elements I had the largest problem with....were actually ads. Ads that were inserted in such a way that I had no idea they were ads... IMO this is a terrible thing. Not only does it make your landing page trashy, it can (as I'm evidence of) easily confuse even the most seasoned of users. There is zero contextual information to signal that it was an ad, and only after clicking one of the 'buttons' did it occur to me that it wasn't a part of your site. So I almost get the feeling of being deceived into clicking an ad, and that puts a very bad taste in my mouth. I don't think that was your intention, to trick people into clicking ads, but when that's what happens I'm going to blame the site for allowing it to happen. Do note that imgur doesn't have any ads on imgur.com.
Some of the other reasons why I prefer imgur over your site:
* shorter URL
* dark background
All else being equal (feature parity for my needs), those 2 things will keep me on imgur. I hate white backgrounds (superficial I know, but preferences are preferences), and shorter urls are simply better for practically every use.
While I applaud your drive, the site looks like a imgur-copycat making a money-grab (due to the prominent & intrusive ads) in a fresh market.
>Do note that imgur doesn't have any ads on imgur.com.
...yes they do.
Can you show me the visual demarcation on your page between the ad and your content?
> > Do note that imgur doesn't have any ads on imgur.com.
> ...yes they do.
My mistake, one of my extensions blocked it.
However, a few things to note about their ad vs. yours, which contributes to my perception of your page being confusioning (and making it look less reputable):
* imgur's ad is below-the-fold, while yours is not. That inherently makes theirs more of a 2nd-class citizen, while for yours the ad is a 1st-class citizen.
* imgur's is in it's own, well-defined UI element; a bounded box clearly separated from all other content on the page. As hinted above, yours allows the ad to flow into the rest of the page, and it even borrows the main color (blue) that your page uses. Any demarcation is only virtual, as there is no visual distinction, and I'm not sure if you could blend the ad into the page any better if you tried...
* imgur's even says "advertisement" underneath, so as to remove practically any chance of confusion. Yours has "click here to disable ads", but that alone doesn't explicitly call out the content as being an ad.
Please don't take my criticisms personally.
And for the record, we have a button that makes ads go away forever. I think that nullifies anything about ads being 1st class citezens.
Overall though, the rest of my experience was solid. It's really cool that you can disable ads, and that it's open-source to boot. Best of luck and good weekend!
By the way, I pushed some updates today, including one that makes ads more obviously ads. Tell me what you think, and a good weekend to you, too!
Also the branding seems kinda outdated - two-word phrase with an inner capital letter, meh. And the URLs feel kinda long, even with the clever "putting part of your name into the tld" thing.
Between that kind of minor quibbles and my expectation that imgur is probably going to stay around for longer than your service is, I'm afraid I'm going to stick to imgur for my cat-related labeling-and-distribution needs.
I'm more interested in getting people to share short bits of video as small video files instead of huge gif files, but I don't think cartoons are a good showcase for that, even with the dramatic file size reduction. Compression artifacts are pretty visible with all the line art and fairly flat colors. (edit: and of course you're going against the flow of all the social websites, going back to web forums all the way to tumblr, where embedding gifs is trivial but videos are a big deal/require youtube/their own posts.)
Good luck, though!
I had almost already forgotten about the existence of your service.
Perhaps "click to upload" or something like that would be better.
(I wasn't trying to be snarky by using imgur - it's just that you guys don't allow paste from clipboard yet and I'm on linux)
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/7zlyd/my_gift_to... (2009 - launch of imgur after 2 months of side project coding)
Very happy they have grown it into what it is today - fast, clean and stable.
It's what imageshack could have been.
Shows what I know.
Interesting to see where this goes. It is a great story.
 see, eg: http://techcrunch.com/2007/05/07/myspace-to-acquire-photobuc...
My Reddit experience these days seems to be nothing more than using RES to scroll through images. I miss the good old days of in-depth discussions that were across the site and not just pushed into subreddits.
Ironically, content discovery.
Reddit's biggest problem is that the big subreddits are incredibly homogenous, and the small ones incredibly slow. If you want to read good, in-depth analysis of world affairs, then you'd better agree with the popular sentiment on /r/worldnews or /r/truereddit. If you don't, you're SOL.
Often, the good content you find is in the comments. However, this necessitates digging through thousands of comments that are generally low-content. This causes pain.
Want to solve a problem redditors have? Find a way to separate the wheat from the chaff.
What you really need is reddit for adults, a site with an entirely different culture that leaves the memes and unfunny jokes behind in favor of encouraging actual conversation on any given topic.
Politics isn't a good
The best content on reddit that I find comes from niche communities. There are some really subject-specific knowledgeable people on there. You see those posts come through /r/bestof, which is just submissions to those gem comments that people find. It's worth subscribing to, but even that is a lot of noise to signal.
The only main/large subreddits I'm subscribed to anymore are /r/programming and /r/todayilearned. The other 50ish are for specific interests and hobbies.
Side rant: I swear that /r/technology went from a mature community of technically literate and rational people to a bunch of politically-charged kids obsessed with long-range scientific discoveries and product feature announcements in about a year. It was painful watching that happen. The patent war saga of yesteryear was the last straw that betrayed the community for the juvenile crowd it had become.
It isn't just the under18's that post memes you know.
There's definitely middle ground though. /r/DepthHub is pretty good at aggregating solid comments. And there's good debate on subs like /r/ChangeMyView and /r/NeutralPolitics. Admittedly, these subs don't refresh as fast as /r/worldnews, but there's usually new content every day.
I think it's a testament to Reddit that - unlike Twitter - they didn't feel like they needed to consume image hosting for their platform. It also spurred the growth of the meme sites. I'm sure Reddit will spawn more large niche sites yet.
1. Why is imgur not #1 on Google when I search for "image hosting". Postimage.org has that, but they take far less traffic than imgur.
2. When will we get video hosting that is as easy to use as imgur? That means not having to register to upload and share videos.
I wrote a PHP script that did fast upload with a minimalistic look and popped in on a server and bought a domain name for it; it got used pretty heavily in my group of nerdy high school/college friends.
But I never gave it any more thought, and just open sourced it a few years later (it's on my github I believe).
who here even heard about Game Neverending? ...what about Flickr?
Not that profit is everything but are they losing money daily?