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Agreed. Hell, most of my code lately has unit tests and UI automation tests and goes through code review and adaptions for a week after writing and it is still pretty shitty and needs to be tweaked later and will always be a crappy code by committee result by the end. Just getting it into production is a grueling battle that sucks out the most idealistic souls and makes most into code monkeys just trying to hack something out. But hey, if I was coding for a startup lately all of my code would be shit because of long hours and no tests since most of the time we're just writing experiments we'll throw out later so why test?

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