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Well that's the problem, there's not much any one of us individually would be able to do. It has a be a mass movement to effect that type of change.

Even simply refusing to join these organizations doesn't help as much as you might think. NSA can teach smart people to program if it comes to that, so there's always someone to fill the seat. Only now, the person filling that seat has ethical norms even farther away from yours.

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