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> The only thing I can think of is either a Zero day TCP/IP stack vulnerability (not a realistic threat), or that the admin doesn't trust the other admins when they install new services. Yes, if an admin installs a new email server and enables relaying to the whole world against the explicit recommendation in bold font by the install wizard and the configuration file, a firewall can block that admins' actions. Then again, that same admin could just as well have disabled the firewall to "get the mail to work", so I'm not sure it's a viable defense against bad admins.

I think it's less about defense against "bad admins" than it is about protecting against accidental bone-headedness. :-) I typically set up a restrictive firewall policy even when I have a clear list of the services I'm running and/or I am the only admin. This comes in handy every once in a while, in cases where...

* A service is expecting more ports to be open than are documented. (Happens not-infrequently with license servers.)

* I'm re-using an old image and there are undocumented services enabled by default.

* A user decides to run a network service in their own account without informing the admins.

In all those cases, am I likely to change the firewall to "make it work"? Sure. But having to actually make that change helps keep an audit trail, and helps keep the admins explicitly aware of the attack surface. It's similar to why it's a good idea to periodically run nmap against your own servers.

In those use cases I agree. If for any reason one do not trust the software installed to behave as expected, a firewall can be a nice net to cover any strange behavior. If the job require Proprietary software services with an unknown/untrusted behavior, or the re-use of old images with strange stuff in them, I would too consider running a firewall. In the case of users however, I tend to apply some good-faith practice and just monitor. If something happen, I can always apply a firewall to deal with the situation. However, I do understand if that is not possible in every work place.

Here nmap do shine, and periodically running nmap is a technique that should be taught in universities. Great way for students to both learn about computer systems, and about learning how to debug problems.

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