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CamperBob2 494 days ago | link | parent

That's kind of scary. The original iPhone was a pretty awful phone by any objective measure (speaking as someone who has owned one of every model and seen them improve steadily over the years.)


hyperbovine 494 days ago | link

Hindsight is 20/20. My first impression, upon beholding an iPhone in summer 2007, was that it had been dropped to us from the heavens by some benevolent, spacefaring race.

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CamperBob2 494 days ago | link

That was my first impression, too. My second impression was wow, this thing isn't a very good phone.

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enraged_camel 494 days ago | link

Note that Model S is not a first-generation car. It came after the Roadster. So it's more like an iPhone 3GS, which was a very solid phone.

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geuis 494 days ago | link

Neither was the 286, the 486, or the Nvidia GTX 280 if you are always going to look at tech like that. It was amazing and a huge advancement when it was produced. You can't look back and say "oh that sucks" 5-6 years later.

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CamperBob2 494 days ago | link

I don't know about the Nvidia example, but both the 286 and 486 were damn nice boxes in their day, if you could afford them. The 286 was much better than the XTs, especially once the clock speeds ramped up. And the 486DX was a big win over having to pair a 386DX with a slow, expensive Weitek or 80387 chip.

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ricardobeat 493 days ago | link

How is the original iPhone different? It was a nice damn phone back in 2007, a huge step up from the smartphones of the time.

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CamperBob2 493 days ago | link

It was a revolutionary device, but it had poor ergonomics, terrible acoustics, lackluster RF performance, tons of bugs, and numerous omitted features that were already standard in run-of-the-mill feature phones. And although it wasn't the hardware's fault, its exclusive carrier was universally acknowledged to be the worst in the US. Using the original iPhone to make calls was like using a shortwave radio from the 1920s -- a lot of unlikely things had to work just right before you could get through.

All of these things got better, of course, and at an impressive rate. Tesla seems to be on the same path, thankfully.

486s were fantastic machines on Day One in all respects except price. I don't know where s/he got the idea they weren't. The original IBM AT I didn't have direct experience with.

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pbreit 493 days ago | link

How did it have "poor ergonomics"? "Tons" of bugs? Can you name a few? Omitted features..like a keyboard? So it was "only" available on a top 2 carrier? I'd ont remember calling being substantial worse than other phones at the time. I still get occasional drops. I think you missed this one pretty badly.

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CamperBob2 493 days ago | link

I think my biggest ergonomic complaint was the earpiece speaker aperture. If I didn't hold it within about 0.001 degree of the sweet spot, I couldn't hear what the caller was saying. (I could go off on a rant about how there was a very good reason why telephones fed a small sample of the caller's voice back to the earpiece as a sidetone for 100 years, but it would apply to all cell phones, not just the iPhone.)

I was (and am) fine with no physical keyboard, but omitting a GPS chip was just plain goofy, considering how nice the Maps application was. Others were complaining about the first iPhone's lack of cut and paste functionality relative to some other phones, the inability to replace the battery or add external storage, the inability to use third-party applications, and the substandard camera.

Bug-wise, if you could get Safari to avoid crashing back to the desktop for more than 30 seconds at a time, you were way ahead of me.

All of this stuff got better in the next generation. It was Apple's dedication to fixing the phone's shortcomings that really made me a dedicated iPhone user.

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ricardobeat 493 days ago | link

Hindsight bias. These didn't become complains until many months after launch. What phones had GPS, cut & paste (?) or a Maps application at the time? Except for BB and maybe Bada, the other "smart" phones only offered primitive low-res Java apps. The Nokia N series was the only one with decent cameras, everyone else had VGA 640x480 toys.

I also bought a 1st gen iPod touch on the week it was released and never had any serious issues with Safari other than browser compatibility.

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gregpilling 493 days ago | link

I paid $4000 for a 486 system in January 1990. It had a massive 40MB hard drive, and awesome Hercules card graphics.

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spullara 494 days ago | link

I meant advanced, but mostly a collection technology and software that any car company might have put together but the incumbents didn't do it. Like the 17" central console screen, a screen for a dashboard, internet access, google maps and navigation, etc.

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chenster 494 days ago | link

Too bad I can't downvote you. The first iPhone was awesome comparing to the 2nd best, namely, Nokia with its Symbian OS. I had both at the time. God, the iPhone was light years ahead.

OK, I will stop digressing. This is not a thread about iPhone.

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CamperBob2 494 days ago | link

Yes, because it's very frustrating when Someone is Wrong on the Internet and you're impotent to do anything about it. I know the feeling. :)

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chenster 494 days ago | link

So help me reach 500 karma so I can downvote the heck out of it. :)

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CamperBob2 494 days ago | link

Done!

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epochwolf 494 days ago | link

Undone.

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wearetheworld 494 days ago | link

unundone.

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sliverstorm 494 days ago | link

Anything looks terrible when you look back from the future a sufficient ways ahead. Holes in the ground with ice cut from frozen lakes was a pretty awful refrigerator, but it was a hell of a lot better than the alternatives available at the time.

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fusiongyro 494 days ago | link

It's funny how often objective measures are irrelevant in The Real World.

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