I've shown Bootstrap sites to non-developers and the response is usually that the sites look nice. Never has it been "ug. boostrap?".
From this I've really found two things:
One, I think there is some massive confirmation bias at work. If a site customizes Bootstrap and it looks nice nobody credits it as a 'Bootstrap Looking' site, so as a result it is only when the defaults are used that people really pick up on it.
Second, the alternative to a site built with Bootstrap is typically not a beautiful custom designed front end, but a pretty rough looking unstyled, inconsistent mess.
Bootstrap is the new baseline for what a website should look like, it should be customized, it can be improved but there is now zero excuse for it looking worse.
1 - http://www.bootstraphero.com/the-big-badass-list-of-twitter-...
I have signed up for your beta :)
Ugh. Really. Hate the fonts (Mainly the bold condensed ones). Hate the color scheme(Yellow text on a grey-green background? Seriously? It actually looks reasonable with the colors inverted[cmd-option-control-8 on OSX]). Slow to load, at least the first time. And socialist realism posters have very bad connotations, no matter how hiply ironic you find them.
You will implement the same structures if you don't use it, so you might as well take advantage of the framework and invest in a nice custom design.
I think it would be even better if you were to showcase some example websites on your landing page. I'd wish to see what others are building with Jetstrap.
Thanks for reminding me of what you have no business reminding me of.
Yet another article telling me what I am, what I should and shouldn't do.
The flip side is that HTML and CSS is not rocket science. It's rewarding and valuable to build your own sites.
If your code is "untidy at best" I would recommend you find another job where you skills don't amount to "untidy". Good luck.
While it's not rocket science some of us enjoy a little help. Don't take my word as gospel, it's just an opinion.
I don't do this for a living yet but hopefully one day soon...
If you can make a living making websites with bootstrap, that's great. Many of your clients won't even know you copied and pasted, then spent the rest of the day playing Crysis.
All these templates and frameworks however, should be tools in your shed that you choose to use or not depending on the build requirements. Relying on one tool is risky, and may prevent your skills improving in web dev in general.
Safari 6 on OSX by the way.
I thought the whole point was that since it's LESS, you can change things up really easily.
Also, if Sass/Compass is more your cup of tea, there's a well-maintained port of Bootstrap.
Can anyone help me keep it up?
Edit: Also would recommend using Cloudflare.
Regarding bootstrap , i'm a designer, and i dont mind people using it. The heck i used it myself.
It doesnt turn server guys them into ergonomists nor usuability specialists , but they know that their code will render well on all the browsers with virtually no test. I prefer people using bootstrap sites to coders that try to come up with their own design and just cant...
Now i design webapps and sites that need to stand out more than the basic bootstrap look but bootstrap can be a tool to work upon too.