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Yeah, I should have mentioned Wicket (it is credited as an influence for lift, after all). I can't remember what made that so difficult to work with. I think it was because you had to effectively mirror the template in code at parts, if I recall. As I noted somewhere else, the lift way of more directly manipulating the template is what I like. (That is, I don't have to have a ton of "liftId" attributes added to the template. In general, I just need the base class attribute added, and then I can manipulate the template using css selectors. This does mean some shape of the template has to be preserved, but I haven't found that limiting yet.)

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