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1. There is no such a thing as C / C++. "Real" C++ is closer to other OO languages than it is from C.

2. It is not because a language is not a good option for teaching that it isn't worth using.

BTW After hours of debate, I still think that C is not a bad option for teaching purposes, mainly because it has a very simple syntax and almost NO api which generally introduce confusion.

I learned programming in C. I really think it is important to learn all the data structures internal functioning (coding your own linked lists or hash-tables), learning how memory in a program really works, what is the difference between a 4 byte-type variable versus a 1 byte one, etc

1. I learned the two languages contemporaneously. They were commonly referred to as C / C++. I used C mostly for embedded/systems programming. I don't know what "real" C++ means... but to be fair, the last time I really used it was pre-STL.

2. OK. (I didn't make that claim, did I?) C / C++ has it's uses. I use it when I have to (embedded systems, systems programming, and performance). But I don't use it willingly.

I TA'd a course in C for EE's. It was fine. I think it probably helped them in many ways. Anecdote: My favorite course as an undergrad was building our own wire-wrapped 8086 computer. You quickly learn to appreciate assembly (versus manually loading registers), and then quickly learn to appreciate the C compiler.

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