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> I never made the point that prosecution leads to suicide. You, however, tried to make the point that depression leads to suicide, and that's factually wrong.

The premise of the article this thread is attached to is, as I understand it, is that aggressive prosecution lead to Aaron's suicide.

> But, we know that Aaron's lawyer notified Heymann at least of Aaron's possibility as a suicide risk, and the response from Heymann was, "Fine, we'll lock him up."

What was she supposed to do? Treat alleged suicide risks specially?

> What a pile of ox manure. I would love to see you leave comments like this on threads about sexism: "Well, if she didn't want doctored pornographic photos of her online, she never should have posted her face on the internet for public consumption!" Someone writing their opinion on a subject never gives anyone else a pass to be an asshole.

That's an utterly ridiculous comparison and you know it. I'm not being an asshole to challenge a public opinion on its own merits. You're acting like I walked into some private memorial service instead of responding on its merits to a public posting implying that a public official was culpable for a person's suicide.

Also: it's tremendously bad form to turn a private tragedy into a public cause then raise that tragedy as a defense to any criticism of the cause.

> If you had said that, it would have been more valuable as a comment than the one you wrote instead.

No, it would be ad hominem, vacuous, and senseless just like the stuff you have been posting.




"What was she supposed to do? Treat alleged suicide risks specially?"

This is entirely separate from the rest of the injustices surrounding Aaron's persecution and suicide, but: yes, yes she should have. It's incomprehensible to me that you're suggesting otherwise: if someone is known as being a suicide risk, you make attempts to eliminate or mitigate as much as possible that risk. Even if it gets in the way of some secondary goals like career advancement or can be manipulated by certain malefactors.

Taren's wrong on this in some ways: Aaron's depression, or at least his unique mental disposition, definitely played a big part in everything. But that doesn't exonerate the prosecutors; it puts more blood on their hands.

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We'll have to agree to disagree. I think short of being faced with someone who is such a high suicide risk that he should be committed for his own safety, prosecutors have no special duty to treat possible suicide risks specially.

What I find odd is that you think it "incomprehensible" that anyone would disagree with you. I think lots of people would disagree with you on this point. Indeed, I think the majority of Americans would disagree with you. We put people in jail for stealing to feed their kids, we put people in jail for killing abusive husbands, etc. We go out of our way to treat defendants uniformly.

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What was she supposed to do? Treat alleged suicide risks specially?

Flight risks are treated differently: they have different or non-existent bail. Systemic risk cases are treated differently: they enjoy a reduced likelihood of indictment and incur non-judicial penalties.

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