edit: I've now been watching this for 40 minutes... why are the banal acts of ordinary people so interesting?! Maybe it's the promise of a brand new thing in 6 seconds that keeps me watching.
Edit: Discussion @ http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5124795
Isn't there a potential challenge for vinepeek? How would you prevent pervs streaming penises and see-me-jerk-off clips? Especially, when this thing grows in volume.
In fact, you could probably get a certain class of videos by only showing Vines in which the tweets are directed at people, to catch the folks who forgot that @-mentions != DM (ala Anthony Weiner)
Vine is no different than any number of recent video sharing apps. Vine does nothing new but sets new arbitrary time limits on the videos they support. Just like the others Vine will try to convince you that through focus groups they have found "3 second" videos will revolutionize video sharing and discovery, but this is nothing new.
Threadlife: Supports 3 second videos
Viddy: Supports 15 second videos
Animoto: Supports 30 second videos
Klip: Supports 60 second videos
now Vine and its 6 second videos.
I am left wondering, what problem do all these video sharing apps think they are solving by setting arbitrary video time limits? Short videos might increase likelihood a user will sit through a whole video, but contrary to what these apps want you to believe they are not improving content quality through these arbitrary time limits. Further, time limits do not help users discovery quality content, so what problem have any of these apps solved?
The company that is dubbed the "Instagram of video" in the media is going to do the same thing Instagram did, improve content sharing and discovery. Of course, I hope my start up is that company, but even if not I think it is safe to say the company who deserves this title will not get it for setting video time limits as a result of focus groups.
Disclosure: I founded my own video sharing website with the goal to address the current problems with video sharing and discovery. I have done this by making Google Earth the UI for discovery of video content.
Programming languages are ultimately an exercise in artificially tying up your arms & asking you to type with your left toe. Try coding a naturally recursive catamorphism in a language that doesn't support recursion. Try storing a billion emails under a megabyte with clever supercompact data structures. Try coding functionally in imperative C. All of these things can & have been done. Why do people do these things ? So also Vine.
Placing a constraint on a creative endeavour is a old and time-tested way of tickling creativity. Pre Twitter, people didn't think they could have any kind of meaningful conversations without at least a paragraph of prose. Sure, it's a strained at time, but there's little denying that Twitter has taught a lot of us a lot about getting to the point, quickly.
Still can't. (Oh, the irony!)
People didn't text and IM before Twitter?
Imposing arbitrary contraints is very common in poetry, which often requires the writer to use a particular verse form, and other creative endeavors. So even if that's all they do, it could be worthwhile.
 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrained_writing
I believe the difference between other apps etc is instead of capturing one continuous shot, Vine allows punctuated recording. In other words you can collate a selection of a few snips of video which Vine auto-generates into a longer combined version.
Sure you can do this and upload this to YouTube etc but I haven't seen anyone execute that as well as the Vine team.
However, for it to be successful Twitter (which acquired Vine before launch) doesn't need Vine to have users.
What Twitter needs/wants with Vine is engagement on Twitter (it doesn't necessarily need engagement within Vine, if it does that a bonus) because if there's engagement brands will create Vine's - which Twitter can then monetize.
Sure the app can share to Facebook too, but Twitter's goal with that is to grab your social graph (hence find your Facebook friends which has since been blocked) which then encourages users to "follow" each other on Twitter - again helping it to monetize with advertisers.
Twitter could have done this through encouraging advertisers to create short video ads on YouTube etc instead of Vine but then there is no value for Twitter as they can't tell advertisers how many people saw the video organically or because of the ad.
That's the real goal of Vine, users are just a "bonus".
 http://gifboom.com/, a mobile app for taking short videos as animated GIFs, popular among Tumblr users
Here's a Forbes article on the subject: http://www.forbes.com/sites/carminegallo/2012/11/29/constrai...
(Meta-)quote: “Recent studies offer evidence that, contrary to popular belief, the main event of the imagination—creativity—does not require unrestrained freedom; rather, it relies on limits and obstacles.”
Another example: TED Talks, which are maximum 18 minutes
Hell, C pointers have been doing it with 4 and 8 bytes for ages! :)
I unfortunately find watching these jumpy snippets jarring. I can see the appeal for getting tiny slices of someone's day, but I'm finding it hard to enjoy it.
"I cant see any useful purpose for 6 second clips in a social wide audience context."
"I can't see any useful purpose for 140 character blurbs in a social wide audience context."
Even with 140 char twitter, unless a very strong opinion by an important person is being conveyed succinctly, most of the (useful) twits exist to give a short opinion on a larger piece linked to by a shortened url. The rest are your standard "I brushed my teeth, I just got of my car etc..." stuff that I leave the usefulness of for YOU to judge.
As much as I dislike them, I also think they'll take off.
I can see them as another Instagram-like "useless" thing that is none-the-less popular because it's quick, illustrative and requires little effort. Think an animated GIF-like snapshot of your day.
(Bah humbug, etc.)
Maybe they've found mobile videos sweet spot?
I tend to get overly moony about things like this, but I think this is one of the things that makes the Internet really great. It's a window to the world, the world seen by people not sitting at their computers but walking, talking, participating.
I really really like this, great job.
Vine is clearly a big idea and vinepeek is awesome.
The only thing I miss is the ability to view more if I find something interesting. Perhaps this restriction is exactly why its so effective, though.
Broadcast TV distorts our model of the world by showing us only the extremes. Vinepeek puts normality in its proper place.
EDIT: then you don't have to click the item. You can click the icon in the address bar and enable flash for that site.
I don't watch a lot of TV, but personally when I do I do it because it's a way to either:
2. become informed
I can't imagine turning this on while I have breakfast, or "for fun" on a bus commute. I see the appeal in sharing snippets of my live in video format with people that may care about the banal day-to-day things (I think this is why I like Path so much - those closest to me may actually be interested in where I went for lunch today), but I don't understand the "hours" of "brilliant entertainment" that some people seem to get out of this.
I think many people watch TV because they need to unplug from their "normal" existence. Or because they seek to see something interesting, funny, or learn something new. I watch The Daily Show because it's funny, I watch BBC because it informs me, I watch Bloomberg because I learn something new. I don't see these need being replaced by vine.
Maybe I don't get it.
Maybe the medium, which is just a couple days old, has rough content now, but its format and contraints will likely create a new field of creativity. I personally don't like watching video streams because they're...boring. With Vine, and vinepeek, the banality only last six seconds. And some people are already mindful of the creative process they can apply (I saw a pretty cool taxi cruising down Tokyo in the night, as interesting as any movie scene).
But frankly, I like the banality. Sure, I see banality through my own eyes every day...but seeing "normal" as it exists for a Midwest mom getting ready to go shopping, a 20-yr-old dude wrapping up a joint, a 50-year-old guy watching Saturday morning cartoons....I dunno, this is just a few steps from being a very cool (if pretentious) modern art presentation.
As a photographer, I'll admit, I've never understood the appeal of video snippets (outside of those that show earthsattering news events, such as the snippets from the Arab Spring) over what can be conveyed in a split-second, defined image. But for the first time, I'm kind of seeing how much more potential expressiveness there is in six seconds of "moving" pictures.
I suppose if we look at it as a medium for art than it's different. I saw a lot of what I described as utilitarian.
I use Twitter in the same way - it serves a purpose: I can connect with people or groups I need to ask questions of. I can share interesting stories / ideas that I find. I use it as a portal to those blog posts you mentioned, not as a replacement for them.
Outside of the art angle, I don't see myself "tuning in" to thumb through random 6 second videos. The Tokyo taxi scene isn't very interesting to me outside of context within a larger story, EXCEPT as a piece of art I can perhaps appreciate for 6 seconds and move on.
Like I said before, could be just me, I'm glad people are finding and enjoying a creative outlet that clearly speaks to something they enjoy doing :)
A "pause" button would really improve this project. Not for the video but for the transition between videos. A 5 Tweet buffer and a back button would be even better. That way, if I see a Tweet that I want to look at more closely, I can go back to it.
I had no idea how many of us could connect over our love of filming coffee preparation, or cats, or traffic, or terrible attempts at stop motion. Hey look another magic trick!
Seriously though. Fascinating and, for now, quite engaging. I vote against re-wind or links to previous clips though. Keep it ephemeral and impermanent. Like real life - a moment is here, then it is gone.
Reminds me vaguely of the videos in William Gibson's Pattern Recognition.
*=ok, the smartphone owning subset of the planet, but thats growing.
Quick suggestions: Put the video completely above the fold. Load in the next one (video and description) behind, then fade between them. The transition is a little jerky right now.
The art project it documents turned out to be quite prescient.
The grammarian in me would change the statement at the bottom to "vinepeek is neither affiliated with nor endorsed by VineLabs, Inc"
How do I get the .mp4 link to the vine video itself? is there a vine api or do I hard scrape?
I think maybe the Twitter api (what vinepeek is using) may return it, because it's part of a twitter card thing?
edit: no it doesn't, you'd need to scrape.
I would recommend telling the user to enable sounds their phones to use Vine. I keep my iPhone on vibration all the time, did not realize Vine videos had sound to it until I saw this link.
Sarcastically, "from the makers of twitter, information free video!"
Vine is the first who does the 'Instagram for video' right.
My brain doesn't really want to accept that these snippets are live.
Pretty addictive though.
So many cats.
Before this, my basic reaction to vine was: "Oh great, another social network." But… now I can see why it's exciting.
The potential here for the cross-section of tiny slices o' life reminds me of the potential that amazed me about Twitter, which led to me designing Twistori:
Man, I love this.
PS: In the end if this proves to be something user FB will buy it and then we'll have a change in the user terms, and... You get e idea.
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