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I don't think this a particularly unique or noteworthy perspective, and nor does it provide any real insight into the youth demographic.

As a sidenote, I've noticed that teenagers love to declare their age when posting on the internet, as if their youth entitles them to an audience.

Now get off my lawn.

I think the crankiness will be justified when HN fills up with "I'm a 15-year old who just made this app/website/blog post", but until then it just strikes me as a bit po-faced. No offence, this might be the first time you've had this particular grumble, but someone seems to do it every time a post like this hits the front page.

Incidentally, I agree with you on the blog post. The other stuff this kid's doing - quite impressive really! Wish him the best of luck. I'd LOVE to see a better thought-out follow up post along the same lines. It makes me think back to when I was his age and completely immersed in all the new, cool technology happenings - so many things I instinctively knew were 'right' and about to go massive (and they did), so many things that weren't even products that I assumed were (and later became)... Basically, I want to consult with my teenage self and use that advice to invest time/money!

> Basically, I want to consult with my teenage self and use that advice to invest time/money!

You and me both. As the eldest child, it was my job to walk the dog three times a day during school holidays. Most of the time I'd go alone. During those endless walks along riverbanks, through fields and down twisty country lanes I'd think and invent and create in my head. It was wonderful.

I remember dreaming up a multi-player game set in space, where every character would be played by another real person. You'd join a ship's crew and go exploring a gigantic galaxy. I was inspired, of course, by Elite on the school BBC and Star Trek; by the 9600 baud modem my Dad 'borrowed' from work and the bulletin boards it gave me access to; and by a dreamy child's desire for complete and total escape. A good fifteen years later Eve Online came out and I got my wish, just as I was settling into a busy career and saving for my first house. I've never even downloaded it.

Then there's the sketches I made in the mid '80s for a handheld computer with a touch-screen interface that would communicate, via radio, with transceivers in public buildings to give people directions and information. There was even messaging, with a kind of dead-letter-drop store-and-forward system that carried data between the transceivers on devices themselves, like a weird cross between bittorrent and the Royal Mail. I don't think I'd even heard of email at that point.

I came up with so much on those long walks. Nearly all of it has been developed in some form or other, never exactly as I imagined but always better in some ways and worse in others.

For me it's one of the most heartbreaking things about growing up: there's no time to indulge in exploration for its own sake. I can't focus my entire brain on a single thing for any length of time at all. If I could, if only I could.

Elite and Star Trek - sounds we had similar childhoods! I never did have a dog though...

I'm publicly rather derisive (in a joking way) about adults playing computer games but I know in my heart of hearts that if Eve (or indeed the new similar ones that are currently under development) is all it's cracked up to be it would be a really REALLY bad idea for me to ever try them.

As a rule, I steer clear of heroin, crack and Elite-type MMORPGs... ;)

It is the first time I've had this grumble, but I migrated here from Reddit to escape the onslaught of everybody-look-at-meeeeee-I'm-a-teenager!!! Apologies if I come across as grumpy; I guess others found more value in the post than I did.

One cynical way to look at it: it's free market research from a high-spending demographic that's completely impenetrable to outsiders. I'm grateful for it, although I share your wary distaste of age-declaring youths. (Shades of those irritating, high-achieving 21 year olds who declare with no sense of irony that they've done more than people twice their age.)

Sorry to single you out and jump down your throat a bit!

Wholeheartedly agree in fighting the good fight and preventing HN from drowning in noise like everything else :)

>As a sidenote, I've noticed that teenagers love to declare their age when posting on the internet, as if their youth entitles them to an audience.

I get that feeling sometimes. I always feel bad about it afterwards. Don't worry, he'll regret it later.

Source: I'm 16. I've mentioned my age on the Internet many times, every time I felt like a dick about it later.

PS: This kids writing annoyed me, I know I must be doing something annoying with mine that I'm not noticing, please point it out to me; thank you in advance.

Comma splice

Don't feel bad. Many adults don't even use commas properly.

Thank you. I've actually thought of that one before. Since it is noticeable, maybe I'll try fixing it tonight.

A worthwhile idea. If you want a nice concise grammar & style reference, Strunk & White's The Elements of Style is a classic.

I disagree. Rather than rant myself, I'll just point you at these august opinions:



I thought it was very interesting. As for being a unique perspective, why would I care about uniqueness? I care about it being informative to ME, and since I'm nowhere near 16 (and we'll just leave it at that), I'm interested in hearing about what is COMMON KNOWLEDGE, therefore NOT unique, to countless kids his age---an age I didn't have to guess at because he did me the favor of telling us.

If there's an element of, "look at me" in his headline, how is that different from every other headline on HN and every other news site? The headline tells you what the "hook" is, and if you aren't interested, move on to the next hook.

And if your point is that the site is cluttered with contributions announcing a kid's age, well how many more contributions are there announcing, "well, that wasn't very interesting to me"?

To the OP: You did fine, kid. All publishers in all media get the approval of only a fraction of their potential audience. The best anyone ever does is to interest a small sliver of humanity. Listen to feedback, but be aware that it will be all over the map, from "Love it, do more!," to "Hate it, shut up!", to stone silence and background crickets. You can't follow all of it; just consider your options, adapt as you see fit, and keep going.

> as if their youth entitles them to an audience.

To his credit, it seems to have worked well enough to get him to the front page of HN...

It may not be unique, but it does show how teenager have grown up with social networking.

Jared Erondu had an opposite viewpoint on revealing age[1] where he couldn't talk about his age (18) because of the discrimination that followed.

[1] http://theindustry.cc/2012/09/14/youre-young-im-18-so-what/

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