[In Focus] Google Shuts Down Gmail To Show Its Immense Power http://onion.com/UxyLs8
http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-... February 2004
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2005-09-14/gillettes-fiv... September 2005
http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-our-long-national-nigh... - January 2001.
Edit: Nobody was using Gmail at any point.
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
 4934 abort (core dumped) chromium
Edit: no crashes since I signed out of sync
Edit2: found a more complete stack trace by somebody else: https://gist.github.com/4251938
Bug Report: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=165171
edit: Gmail works fine for me in Denmark, maybe it is only a regional outage?
If she wanted it done, it'd already be done.
While you are on that page, enable SSL by default:
Turn on SSL: Check "Make your Yahoo! Mail more secure with SSL"
Chat seems to be offline - mail works
Maybe this is a sign that they're too tightly integrated.
Not that everything I do is bugless, but separation of concerns isn't a swear word.
Wonder what the difference is? I don't sync among devices, but for the people that it did crash for do you sync among devices? Maybe that has something to do with it?
This is very bad.
Edit: I had Chrome Sync enabled on both. Seems more stable with syncing disabled.
It looks like mail.google.com is back though. I guess I opened them after the issue was fixed.
I've noticed that Hacker News seems slower since gmail went down. I'd be interested to know how traffic responded. I'm guessing a lot of people default to HN if they hit a roadblock in their work. I know I do.
Using dev build from canada.
Edit: Looks like Chrome Sync is causing the crashes.
Crashed Thread: 21 Chrome_SyncThread
was on the crash log.
EDIT: A colleague is seeing it too.
Thread from the other day:
Going on 11 years here with no real issues.
Define "no real issues" cos I would define GMail going down for some users in parts of the world for a short period of time as "no real issue".
To clarify my other statement, the biggest "issue" i've had is during a failure of the primary MX messages marked as read would sometimes revert back to being unread for a few minutes.
There's been pretty good focus on how to do http, dns, and some database services, but not as much recently on smtp, imap, etc.
Why? There are Free webmail solution you can install on your own servers.
The reason I host my own mail because I want to own and control my data.
"One must require from each one the duty which each one can perform," the king
went on. "Accepted authority rests first of all on reason. If you ordered your people
to go and throw themselves into the sea, they would rise up in revolution. I have the
right to require obedience because my orders are reasonable."
"Then my sunset?" the little prince reminded him: for he never forgot a question once
he had asked it.
"You shall have your sunset. I shall command it. But, according to my science of
government, I shall wait until conditions are favorable."
"When will that be?" inquired the little prince.
"Hum! Hum!" replied the king; and before saying anything else he consulted a bulky
almanac. "Hum! Hum! That will be about--about--that will be this evening about twenty
minutes to eight. And you will see how well I am obeyed!"
This is both somewhat true and somewhat not true. He's still vulnerable to failure of the hosting equipment and attacks from crackers. But, when he's the only admin, there's nobody else to fat-finger the server out of action, and if he only logs into the shell for service he will never fat-finger outside of planned service.
Now, there are arguments to run your own mailserver - you get to configure it exactly the way you want, you might see it as a hobby, ... But from a pure financial point of view it doesn't make sense.
Also, the machine is in the same lan as me so connectivity is never a problem (unless the cat chews through the ethernet cables again).
- I've run pay servers in the cloud. Then they magically disappear because the expiration date on my credit card updated and the best way for GoDaddy to tell me was to wipe it and then send me an email.
- I've tried free servers. I got what I paid for.
Whatever problems GMail has (and it does have problems), it's not those. Absolutely everything else has left a taste of ashes in my mouth.
I don't mind paying, but what happens if there is a disruption in payment methods? I'm busy, and I'm also spread very thin on "things I can concentrate on." If my credit card expires without me noticing, I don't want all code and data on the VPS to vanish on me.
It must be server/account specific.
These "OMG GOOGLE IS DOWN" is the geek equivalant of "THE INTERNET IS DOWN" when Jane Officeworker can't get to msn.com.
"The problem with Google Mail should be resolved. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience and continued support. Please rest assured that system reliability is a top priority at Google, and we are making continuous improvements to make our systems better."
It sounds like something an airline might say after bumping you to another flight!
EDIT: Thanks @mpeg for pointing out that this is a different outage. Still yucky copy though.
So far it only says "We're investigating reports of an issue with Google Mail. We will provide more information shortly."
Still no update
Is the 1 intentional?
"We're investigating reports of an issue with Google Mail. We will provide more information shortly."
"Novità! Le app Gmail per dispositivi mobili sono appena state aggiornate su Google Play e nell'App Store di Apple. Ignora"
Translated: News! The mobile Gmail apps have just been updated on Google Play and App Store.
I wonder if this is related...
What if, say a month later Gmail.com goes down again. Then, how do I submit another post to HN? I mean wouldn't I be redirected to this one?
edit: I'm in Europe.
I'd really love to investigate and find out why these two related products behave this way but honestly I'm way too lazy.
<edit> an both are back at 12:17pm EST</edit>
Speculation that it is happening to many users.