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The post speaks of facts and then states:

The goal of the dash in Ubuntu has always been to provide a central place in which you can search and find things that are interesting and relavent to you; it is designed to be at the center of your computing experience.

So, did they conduct a survey to check that majority of Ubuntu users thinks that getting Amazon affiliate links is 'interesting and relevant'?

I'd wager that a majority dislikes the integration of Amazon affiliate links. If so, Jono, is not providing factual information either.

Of course, we all know ulterior motive is generating more income. Then, at least be honest (or silent) about it.

[1] Yes, I know, you can use Super+a, but most users will just click the Dash or press the Super key. It's the most obvious thing to do.

It's difficult to see where the "uncertainty" or "doubt" that RMS is alleged to be spreading is: as far as I can tell, both he and Jono agree on the facts, they just disagree on the fear. Accusing RMS of spreading FUD seems a tad alarmist.

It is interesting to examine the claim that the Amazon search should be included because it would provide interesting and relevant things - unlike something like Google, Amazon's search engine has a single goal in life, to sell things. Whether users like the integration or not, even the more fundamental question seems to want answering: I cannot think of a time when I've been searching for stuff, locally or online, and thought, "You know what, I wish Amazon results were integrated into this - that'd be great!".

> unlike something like Google

Please tell me you are joking. Google exists only to sell your eyeballs and whatever it can figure out about you.

FFS, you know damn well what the post meant. Your comment adds nothing to the discussion.

I'm not at all sure that I do know. I believe part of the implied message in this post is that Google is not motivated by a cynical profit motive to the same extent that Amazon is. That is highly dubious to me. Sending search queries to Google may very well be both more useful and less surprising to end users, but it is NOT "less evil". Either and both would be significant privacy violations.

I am now not sure that is implied by the message at all. In which case you would be mistaken about me knowing damn well what it meant. I have no idea what other interpretation of the Google reference would make sense.

Either way, your hostility is unwarranted and adds nothing to the discussion.

No, that wasn't the point I was making at all.

Google, as a search engine, is a generic "find the most relevant thing based on the keywords I provide". Amazon, as a search engine, is closer to "find the things I would be most likely to buy based on the keywords I provide". The two functions are entirely different.

I didn't make any comment about it being "less evil" (was that intended to be a quote?); I was making a comment about the intended function of the service. I could have substituted in DDG or Yahoo! or Bing and the point would be the same; equally, it makes as much sense to provide Amazon-based results to me as it would do to provide results from Target or Walmart.

No, of course you didn't say anything about it being less evil; but that is what Richard Stallman is talking about. So your position is that this is a usability issue with the "feature"? Your comment is baffling to me now.

Tech products and services -- free, private, profitable: pick two.

If 'compiled' doesn't belong to any of these categories: get Red Hat EL. ;)

All source is available for RHEL -- hence the existence of nearly identical clones CentOS (http://www.centos.org) and Scientific Linux (https://www.scientificlinux.org/). The only differences for the clones being the removal of trademarked branding elements.

That was exactly my point. RHEL is free, profitable, and you can have your privacy ;).

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