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meaty 516 days ago | link | parent

As announced to me this morning by no less than 4 identical emails from their aggressive marketing machine...

On a more serious note, I find windows server 2012 to be pretty unusable remotely thanks to the new UI. The moment you log in via RDP, it goes to hell. The only way out is server core which after login pops up a cmd.exe window.

Not impressed, especially considering as an MS partner, this will pretty much be forced on us soon.



darklajid 516 days ago | link

What does 'goes to hell' mean here, specifically?

I regularly remote into a 2012 machine here, and for my uses it works just as with every other machine.

Maybe I'm always ctrl+alt+break'ing into full-screen and you don't, so that my accelerators/shortcuts/whatever are working as expected? Can you provide more details about the pain points you experienced? We're thinking about a bigger 2012 deployment as well and maybe I'm missing flaws that are just outside of what I expect/usually do.

Please share?

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jconnop 516 days ago | link

Just dodge around the new UI and it's quite usable. Or better yet get Start8 and automatically skip the new UI on log in altogether (and get a win7 style start menu as a bonus).

Why they would include a tablet oriented touch centric UI in a server product is a matter for another discussion...

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josteink 516 days ago | link

Yes. This can certainly be done. It's not ideal but it can be done.

The problem is that this a standard complaint everywhere, and that this is the standard response given everywhere.

In doing everything they could to force Metro down users' throats in Windows 8 (which is a decision I disagree with, but can understand), Microsoft completely failed when repeating that same judgement for a server OS.

Server-admins doing RDP does not want Metro. They have nothing to benefit from metro. They will never use metro. They will not install "apps" on their servers.

This decision has done nothing except harm Microsoft's perception among people who would normally be the proponents of their technology.

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daigoba66 516 days ago | link

I can almost let the decision to have Metro on enterprise desktops slide, considering I use Windows 8 everyday in the enterprise and can almost fully ignore Metro (except for the broken desktop search).

But Metro on Windows Server? It just warps my brain trying to justify that. I cannot think of a single technical reason for it to be there. Except maybe consolidation of shell code, and that's a crappy reason.

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pjmlp 516 days ago | link

I agree there.

Like many in the industry I have a love/hate relationship with Microsoft, as many other companies.

This has to be a decision from the Marketing department on the engineering teams.

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rplnt 516 days ago | link

> pretty unusable remotely thanks to the new UI

How so? It's much more easy to use with keyboard if yo uhave to do anything there (second question is why would you need to do anything there).

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