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Bath salts: "Since then, McAfee has reportedly been spending his time researching MDPV, a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine. It is illegal in the United States." 0.o



Unfortunately, in itself, that statement means very little to me:

> a stimulant that can produce similar effects to methamphetamine

That can describe many substances, both legal and illegal: street meth, Adderall, Vyvanse, Desoxyn, MDMA - the list goes on. Even caffeine could be said to produce 'similar effects' - both are stimulants and diuretics that have comparable in vivo half-life times (depending on the means of ingestion).

> It is illegal in the United States.

Well, that doesn't mean much. Methamphetamine is illegal, except when it isn't (prescribed). And the US drug scheduling (which determines the degrees of legality) is so nonsensical that it may as well be randomly generated for all it tells us about the relative dangers and harms of a substance.

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There's not much innuendo involved here. The article pretty directly links to MDVP. Go look it up on Erowid; it's not particularly inert stuff.

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> The article pretty directly links to MDVP. Go look it up on Erowid

My point is that this is a rather irresponsible journalistic statement. If they want to portray MDVP as a dangerous substance, that's a pretty terrible comparison that fails to get the point across to anybody who knows a thing or two about psychoactive substances.

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> anybody who knows a thing or two about psychoactive substances

Which is arguably a single digit percentage of ars readers.

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Would you rather assume your readers are knowledgeable and help them rise to the occasion, or assume that they're ignorant and one day be proven correct?

My background in journalism has taught me to favor the former.

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I'm confused. Are you trying to say that you don't have a background in journalism? Or you do, but it's just decades old from a time when the goal was to inform and not just get page views? Modern journalistic tack is to write sensationalist scare stories targeted at the least common denominator moron, as they'll be the most outraged and hang on every update.

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> Modern journalistic tack is to write sensationalist scare stories targeted at the least common denominator moron, as they'll be the most outraged and hang on every update.

I don't think it's a coincidence that most modern journalism isn't worth reading, IMHO.

> Or you do, but it's just decades old from a time when the goal was to inform and not just get page views?

It's not decades old - I just like to think we did a good job of writing informative pieces instead of sensationalist nonsense.

At least, we made a very, very dedicated effort to follow journalistic ethics - I'll let others be the judge on how well we succeeded. :-)

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That is why in the Ars article it was linked to its wikipedia page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxypyrovalerone

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Methamphetamine was given out in bucket loads to troops in the past.

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Hitler also took an injection of Methamphetamine every day until his suicide. But we've strayed off topic.

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Time to switch to Kaspersky!

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