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> Neal: no, in the future, no one will need to know how to program

Already true if you defined 'programming' as 'wiring up plugboards' or 'punching cards to feed into a mainframe'.

If you define 'programming' as 'telling non-sentient machines what to do in a way that they will actually execute your intentions' then not even developing human-level AI will kill programming. After all, why would a human-level AI be chained to the task of playing DOOM with me just because I decide I want to play DOOM?

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