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[flagged] Ruby deserves better leadership than DHH (victorwynne.com)
26 points by slippersod 43 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 11 comments


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Yeah, this is a stupid post. Why should someone not be allowed to have political views that are opposed to your own? And why would that make them unsuitable to manage Ruby technically?


"Political views that are opposed to your own" is not an accurate characterization of the opposition to his stature as a community figure.


Because the impact of them keeping potential contributors away may be larger then their positive impact on the project. If you don't care about the leader's views, you won't care if it's someone other than DHH. If you don't want to work in a community accepting racists, you care if it's DHH. Also in general, world where the leaders are not racists and nationalists is a better place - not sure why that's something that needs elaboration.


Bull. That’s a slippery slope argument. Also, if we follow that logic, there always will be people that don’t want to work with others for their beliefs, regardless of what those are.


Not a slippery slope. It already happens in practice. For example, the most I hear about D-lang is from people leaving the community due to its "we don't care about politics" stance which caused failure to moderate abuse.

> if we follow that logic, there always will be people that

Now that's slippery slope... People may not agree with each other, but there's a massive difference between "I don't like something trivial" and "I think that group of people should not exist". It's not all the same thing or equally important. There's a good reason to remove community leaders who have the latter views.


I think there's no question DHH's latest blog post is fully racist, and its absolutely true that there's a bunch of people on HN who will downvote and flag anything "political". So its basically impossible to have a conversation about this here.


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Ironically, if he were in London, he would be one more "non native Brit".

And apparently he lives in the USA and Spain. Where he is a "Non native American" and a "non native Spaniard".

But we know what he really means....


DHH doesn't lead Ruby...

And silence from Ruby leadership? Probably because like half of them are Japanese. A culture known for being way more conservative than Americans and Europeans. Not exactly pro-immigration either. And the BDFL is a devout Mormon, a religion also known for being conservative.

Take your culture war somewhere else...


How much time will it take to HN community censor/flag this post?




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