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> 18 hours ago is "last few days"? It's open to the public right now. Members of the public are riding in Tesla Robotaxis right now. You cannot simply assume that no members of the public are able to do this just because your account is still on the waitlist.

They only opened the ability to even join the waitlist today.

Those comments WERE factually accurate when they were made.

> but the fact of the matter is that FSD (despite being only level 3 autonomy at the moment) is already far safer than human drivers are, just like Waymo.

Oh god, it's the FSD talking points. Based on what? Oh yes, Tesla's stats where they compare a subset of driving in a subset of roads in a subset of conditions in a subset of vehicles to "all drivers, all roads, all conditions, all weather" and come to conclusions that their statisticians know to be false because they wouldn't be statisticians if they didn't know that.

And yeah, Tesla's stats, the same ones that 1) don't count any incident without airbag deployment as an accident, even if it involves the total write off of the vehicle, or a fatality, and 2) oh yeah, any fatality accidents.

> Tesla's sub-$40k cybercabs

That don't actually exist, yet (if at all). Are they coming out before or after the $39K CyberTruck?

> Waymo (who has only a couple thousands of cars total, and only plans to produce tens of thousands per year) will never have as much real-world data as Tesla

Still hundreds of times more Robotaxis than Tesla has on the road right now.



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