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Ask HN: Will Grok win as it will eventually train on data from Optimus androids?
3 points by amichail on Aug 14, 2025 | hide | past | favorite | 7 comments
Grok’s competitors currently don’t have functional androids to gather data from.


Grok will win because the Boring company will find the mole people's secret underground lair where they keep a record of all human knowledge as well as socks that have gone missing from the dryer.


I'm sure they'll come out with agent software for things like unitree's android. Personally I think androids are a complete waste of effort and money. They're incredibly expensive both to manufacture and maintain, impossible to make safe, difficult to control, and absolutely drink power just standing.

Putting a low DOF arm on a roomba just doesn't sell as well to investors though so you keep hearing about them.


Any reason for assuming that data contains some magical Elixir of Intelligence, which isn't available anywhere else?


"The Limiting Factor" had an interesting take: Elon Musk's ability to deploy resources gives Grok a competitive advantage. YT vid goes over the challenges in getting Colossus up (200k GPU) and their deployment of Colossus 2, a 3-gigawatt facility with one million GPUs.

The Limiting Factor: xAI's Plans to Crush OpenAI, Meta, and Google in the AI Race (32m) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoaMveDtCxI

"Wars are won with logisitics" tweet by Elon Musk


If you're asking this question without trolling anyone, then you are unfit for commentary on technology and finance.


It's amichail, look at their submission history and you'll find a lot of questions that are obviously the product of a troll.

Their other question from today asks if we should close public libraries to fund home internet for poor people. No connection presented between the two. No analysis done to see if closing public libraries would even come close to covering the financial gap needed. Just a nonsense question by a troll (most likely).


Grok will lose because they won’t have any customers




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