Yet to many technologists working on the internet this seems like a perfectly reasonable trade to ask people to make.
So are people aware of what they are doing and are making a fair trade? Or are we taking advantage of folks simply because the technology is new?
There is a moral component to modern software development. Many of us technology folks don't like to talk about it, but simply because we don't talk about it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
Edit: this is not supposed to be a direct analogy (obviously Facebook does not have your medical records yet, afaik). Games want to have the ability to find out who is your friend and to post on your behalf, it's not absolutely necessary but millions of people understand it's the price they pay for a free game.
Frankly, your analogy is ridiculous. Facebook apps aren't integral parts of my health and well-being. They don't need to delve into my personal life.
They want to. That's one way to exploit me to advertisers. But a Doctor absolutely needs to, for my own well being. Games and the advertisers they serve don't have that claim.
If you feel the games exploit you (or the doctor invades your life) , then avoid them.
"It wouldn't work without constant nagging" is supposed to support your point?
> If you feel the games exploit you (or the doctor invades your life) , then avoid them.
The entire point of the article is that Facebook is intentionally making it less obvious that these games are exploiting your personal information.
I get fifteen seconds of article, then get redirected to that "download our app" thing. No combination of back/forward or clicking "no, let me read the article" results in me being able to actually read the article.
I'm not about to pollute my iPad just for one site, so I guess from here on out I just have to make a mental note to stay away from techcrunch articles when they come through here.
Everything is an app today! Yay!
That's the X on the address bar that's a refresh circle icon as you read this.
I have to hit the stop button really quickly. I am also trying to stay away but it seems like a good percentage or article posted on HN come from techcrunch.
In addition, does anyone have an issue with font resizing on Techrunch? When I zoom in to the text it becomes pixelated and unreadable. I end up being forced to read tiny text at original site resolution.
Horrible UX. I expect more tech savvy from Techrunch.
There are pages that can crash Safari on iOS which are no problem to be read in Opera Mini.
I've just followed the link and the whole page is fully readable.
I also find this TC "feature" very annoying.
That or enable desktop user agent reporting via a toggle ala third party browser apps Atomic and Sleipnir.
This wiki has been around for a number of years and I always thought it was a great idea. Shame it hasn’t really seemed to have taken off.
If I accept this certificate, what does it mean? Is something bad going to happen to my computer?
So they can access my name, picture, gender etc... but what are they going to do with it?
It's quite obvious to see that this new style of confirmation would increase conversion and more people will click 'Play Game' than 'Allow'. Higher conversion means more money.
At the end of the day, for facebook it's a question of who they want to keep happy. Their users by keeping their privacy and giving them the best tools to make informed decisions, or the app publishers - who want to get as many users as they can, and need some way to make money out of those users. Considering that users aren't directly paying anything to facebook, and app publishers are more likely to increase fb's revenue - I think it's clear which side facebook would pick.
But does it really matter? If I had a grandma she wouldn't be using techcrunch, she'd be using facebook.
I have one for social interactions with all privacy settings maxed out (including opting out of the Facebook platform ), and one for apps, with no friends.
The same goes for Twitter. http://twitter.com/loganloginski
 Otherwise the apps of your friends have access to your data.
It is likely that many people really are searching for the button that allows them to fucking play the game. (The people joining Facebook now must be the trailing end of the trailing end of computer-savviness.)
On the other hand, Facebook has decided not to try to educate these users any more. They wash their hands of the whole affair.
Funny, now it's obvious that they could have been that evil to start with. I wonder what's changed. It might be personnel changes and/or share price...?
Time passed. Like someone who first makes lewd remarks, doesn't encounter (enough) resistance, then tries for a grope.
Those Facebook guys are just so clever. Pat yourselves on the back you wily "engineers". You guys are so productive. How do you do it?
or, i guess, you could share your personal information with a third, totally unknown and untrusted party, in the hopes that they'll protect you from facebook.
"There was an error while disabling applications and websites. Please try again."
I reported this to Facebook three months ago and haven't heard anything back. This has been broken for three months. I believe it is intentionally broken. Shame on you Facebook!
I would expect a "design trick" to be using color, contrast, or typography to achieve a result. If getting rid of the "don't allow" button counts as "design", then I wonder if "design" has become too broad a term to still be useful.
Edit to add some nuance: I didn't mean to take this out on you personally. Your limited definition of what "design" as "visual design" is actually fairly pervasive these days and as a (non visual) designer this bothers me to no end. I'm blaming the use of design as a noun for this. People want to have something that is "design", whatever that means. Design, however, is also a verb. It is the process of shaping a product to fit its users' needs. For software, that means figuring out what it should and shouldn't do, how it should do it, how to organise information, what language (visual and verbal) to use and testing, testing, testing. To do this right, you need more than just a talented artist that can make a pretty picture.