Ask HN: Does Google train on Google Docs?

[puttycat]

I could not find any reliable clear-cut answer to this online:

I need to share and collaborate on a confidential document. Do I know for sure that its content won't be consumed and repeated by Gemini some day?

[dtagames]

This page[0] from them says no.

[0] https://cloud.google.com/document-ai/docs/security#data-usag...

[puttycat → dtagames]

Thanks. It's weird that this is hidden inside the documentation of another service. Plus it's not explicit about GDocs in general.

[brudgers]

What are the likely consequences of Gemini repeating the document?

Make a realistic assessment of the risk, assign a value to that risk.

Assign a value to the cost of finding an alternative.

It is an engineering problem, not a theoretical problem.

[JohnFen]

I have no idea, but there's no way I'd put any sensitive data in the cloud regardless (at least not unless it was strongly encrypted). It's just too much risk for my taste.

[theGeatZhopa]

may be the answer you search for can be found in the term & conditions of google docs? For ease of work, copy & promt it to gemini and then check whether its not hallucinated.

In future, there may be a change of terms & conditions - like everywhere now. X/Reddit/RedNote/Meta (FB/Insta)/TikTok/... all change(d) or already had this in their terms of use.. So in future, its possible that the free google docs uses the data. Google Workspace, paid, is more unlikely as its used by companies world wide.

[nullfield]

Maybe not, but there have been cases of them removing documents from Drive because they weren't politically acceptable, like ... manifestos.

You should assume that anything on "someone else's computer" that you didn't encrypt is or could be read or disclosed any time, and even if you encrypt it be aware that the filename (use a GUID?) or metadata (upload date/time/location/account) can still leak information to some degree.