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neya 606 days ago | link | parent

This trend needs to change. There's too many guys out there running Wordpress blogs on shared hosting plans and/or making Android (or iPhone) apps, just to call it a 'start-up'...my Facebook friends list is full of these guys, calling themselves with ridiculously random titles like CEO/Founder/Co-Founder/MD of <insert-wordpress-blog_or_mobile_app_here>

Back in the days, a start-up was something different, something the society looked down, you know...a real challenge (which is why the society looked down). Today, the scenario is like as if its cool to run a Start-up (and fail).

X: "Hey dude, I run a startup..howz about you?"

Y: "Cool story bro..I runz one too..wanna be my co-founder?"

X: "sure thing bro...right away"

[now X can call himself a 'Serial Entrepreneur' because he sabotaged his old start-up for a new one]



Juuumanji 606 days ago | link

Exactly. What is even more annoying is that so many of them have ideas that require millions of users to make any money.

What's wrong with creating a SaaS for $80/month and finding 500 users? $40k/month is more than so many of these clowns will ever make.

they need to keep their heads down and mouths shut. rant over = )

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erichocean 605 days ago | link

What's wrong with creating a SaaS for $80/month and finding 500 users? $40k/month is more than so many of these clowns will ever make.

No love from your peers? Seriously, B2B is way undervalued around here...

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neya 606 days ago | link

I whole-heartedly agree with you, and seriously, it doesn't sound like a rant at all to me. You just spoke out the truth dude =)

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freshhawk 606 days ago | link

If they have people reading their wordpress blog or users for their mobile apps then they are already ahead of many of the startups featured here.

You might want to look up the No True Scotsman fallacy.

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icebraining 606 days ago | link

I think the position is that having users is necessary but not sufficient for being a startup. NTS doesn't apply here, since no one is changing the definition of startup to exclude a counterexample; they simply disagree with it a priori.

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freshhawk 606 days ago | link

I couldn't see any concrete distinction between the "bros" in his hypothetical and many things HNers would consider a "real" startup.

Maybe he was also attacking the very lean startup people who only have an email collecting landing page, a funny or inflated title and a blog filled with lessons for entrepreneurs when they come from a geek subculture and you are correct. It seemed more like a perfect NTS because of the "bro" references. Reading it again, I could see either interpretation being correct.

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srs0001 605 days ago | link

> Today, the scenario is like as if its cool to run a Start-up (and fail).

I think it is great that startups are cool. We need more entrepreneurs, not less. Most people don't have a clue what they are doing with their first company (I sure as hell didn't). Fail, and you won't make the same mistakes again the second time around.

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