When I put in my third server, do I have to buy the deluxe version (which takes my annual costs from $200 to $5000)? Or do I buy up to 25 of the pro licences to get up to 50 servers?
You may also want to consider making your commercial support offerings mesh with the enterprise licensing. As an example I seem to have to negotiate phone support and at best a 6 hour response time with the enterprise licencing or get an EUR 15K support contract to get 2 hours.
Re: the deluxe version. Hmm, that wasn't our intention, we merely wanted to include a plan that had the entry level SLA pricing attached to it for support with guaranteed response-times. Apologies if it wasn't clear enough, but we'll be sure to fix this in a future site update.
Re: third server, if you're a startup, you'd end up buying 2 startup licenses. If you're not a startup, that'd be 2 pro licenses (or as you mentioned, buy 25 pro licenses to get up to 50 servers). Hope that clears things up a bit, it definitely is good to get constructive feedback like this so we can try and fix it. Much thanks! :)
The commercial support offering is available primarily for demanding enterprises who require high support levels for software to be incorporated into their stack. The level of support from these licenses is beyond what is expected for normal product support, including consultancy time with our deployment experts.
At this point I might just be a bit jaded but the term ninja is about as flattering to me as peewee. It's not that I haven't worked with "ninjas" before and from that experience I've grown a very clear aversion to "ninja" anything. Add to that recruiters have picked up on the term and now everyone has to be a "ninja" to get the job. Really? Ugh.
Get rid of "ninja." Then I'll actually be able to point my boss to your website.
I think you can afford to lose the "as well".
"Phusion Passenger is an Apache and Nginx module for deploying Ruby and Python web applications."
... yet I can't see any further mention of Python support in any of the linked roadmap posts, or on https://www.phusionpassenger.com/enterprise - does anyone have any more information about Python support?
In a nutshell, you put your WSGI application code in passenger_wsgi.py. Point the virtual host's document root to the 'public' directory, and it just works. Very similar to Rack/Rails support, with passenger_wsgi.py substituting config.ru. See this for an example of Django on Phusion Passenger: https://github.com/kwe/passenger-django-wsgi-example/
Basically you can just drop in a WSGI python app, and we will serve it up :)
We're excited to hear what you think about it.
I've tried a lot of other app servers, and while there are a lot of great products out there, I didn't find any of them to match the ease of installation, configuration, and stability that Passenger provides.
I'm looking forward to being a paying customer. Congrats!
Having said that, the intention is, I imagine, noble. You want to be, and be seen, to be flexible and willing to work with your customer. But I think the way its presented will come across as wishy-washy.
I like the design, thought it may be a little busy at times. But certainly eye catching.
Apologies for the "amateurish" impression, it was actually meant to be a plan that would include the entry level SLA with guaranteed response times. After reading some of the feedback here, it's definitely something we're aiming to fix in the next update. Thank you for your feedback! :)
Should probably remove this page since they share the same name and all.
Phusion Passenger Enterprise is no longer a joke. It is now a real product with real features. A while ago we started "de-joking" the old donation page. As you can see at, the page now explicitly mentions that it's a donation. The 'enterprise.html' URL is kept to prevent links from breaking, but we may change that as well in the future to reduce confusion.
That said, we're grateful to all the people who have donated and supported us. Our Startup license type is our way to support other startups.
EDIT: fixed now, server ran out of memory and swap.
BUT, right below that it said: Actually this is really a donation. The "enterprise" name is just a joke.
Wayback Machine Link: http://web.archive.org/web/20081210192914/http://www.modrail...
edit: removed some asterisks that were causing a display issue.
Considering the feedback from this thread, it definitely looks like something we need to fit back in and will be among the things we'll work on for the next iteration/deploy. Thanks for the feedback and kind words, it's much appreciated seeing as we've been working on this for a while now; it easily becomes hard to look at things with a fresh pair of eyes after a while, which is definitely needed for giving a good first impression imo.
I just wanted to add my voice that I think it'll be useful for developers to know what you guys intend to do with the open source version now that you've the Enterprise version. A comparison table like mlitwiniuk mentioned would be useful.
Would also like to know when the open source version of Passenger 4.0 will be available so I can decide whether to pay for a few Enterprise licenses now or hold on.
The Open Source version of Passenger will always be our core product, and it will be maintained and developed just as it always has been.
Phusion Passenger Enterprise is a set of features added on top of the Open Source version, to add stability and deployment features to high performance applications.
As Ninh posted earlier, we are working on a direct comparison table to make the differences more clear.
Because Passenger Enterprise is built directly on top of Passenger Open Source, both versions are always released in tandem. This means that Open Source 4.0 and Enterprise 4.0 will be released at the same time.
For now we just want to make clear that Passenger Open Source will remain a fully legit product, and it will never be limited in functionality to increase sales on our paid products.
There's no need to hold on to buying Enterprise. All Phusion Passenger 4.0 open source features will become immediately available to Enterprise users. We also have some more Enterprise-only features planned for the future, and we will be announcing them on our blog.